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| Apr-17-05 | | capatal: "Doctor" Alekhine i presume? it begs the question why one of the greatest chess masters-world champions ,in all ,recorded history felt driven, compelled ,to "doctor" his games or "gild the lilly"...when his legetimate competitive masterpieces will endure with the ancient and noble game of chess in perpetuity. Once a champion-always a champion...what accounts for Alekhines compulsion to out do discretion ?How can this be? |
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| Apr-17-05 | | mynameisrandy: Tim Krabbe's page on Alekhine's five-queen game makes it pretty clear that he never intended to be glorified for that creation. Alekhine didn't create these games so everyone would think he was awesome, he just did it because he saw great possibilities.
There are a great number of stories and accounts which showcase serious defects of character by Alekhine, but people need to lay off him on the composed games. He didn't do it for bad reasons. |
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| Apr-17-05 | | capatal: it would seem there is a very bright line between competitive and composed chess games that should be conveyed to the chessic audience at the time...regardless of the authors intent and motivations at the time of publication. |
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| Apr-17-05 | | Minor Piece Activity: Perhaps a new variant of chess could be created, in which games are composed competitively (perhaps according to a randomly chosen set of preset rules, i.e. game must contain Bxh7+ sack, should be under 25 moves, must end with ...Kh3, etc.) Whoever comes up with the most beautiful game in the eyes of the chess public wins the competition. Sounds sort of weird I admit, but I think the idea is interesting. At the very least it'd give would-be liars something constructive to pour their creative energies into. |
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| Apr-17-05 | | RisingChamp: Ineffective. any kind of competition has to have a clearly defined criterion-there is no way you could have a competition like this even the greatest of experts cannot agree which great games are better and there is no answer-it is a matter of taste.Besides as Kasparov "Chess is struggle,Chess is battles Chess is war" the faint hearted should stick to studies and compositions. |
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| Sep-04-05 | | Averageguy: Some sources say that this was merely a nice piece of analysis, rather than a real game. |
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| Sep-04-05 | | ughaibu: Really? |
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| Sep-04-05 | | suenteus po 147: I'm sure a hundred years from now "some sources" will be saying that a few of Kasparov's brilliant games will be "a nice bit of analysis," or some such. |
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| Sep-04-05 | | Averageguy: <ughaibu> I used to play the vienna game as white, and in Gary Lane's "Vienna Game" it gives this game and says afterwards: 15.Rf5# is supposed to be Alekhine-Tenner, but any chess historian will tell that this was just a nice piece of analysis by Alekhine. |
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| Sep-04-05 | | Calli: <averageguy> Ughaibu was being sarcastic because it is well trodden ground. Just peruse the previous posts a bit. |
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| Sep-05-05 | | Averageguy: Sorry, I didn't read the last few posts. |
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| Sep-05-05 | | hayton3: The tenor of this game is hardly worth an Oscar |
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| Dec-31-05 | | syracrophy: Wow! It's niece to see the great grandmasters make "miniatures" like this one. The only mistake I saw was:
10...Ne5?? <A blunder. This bad move allows a variation of the mate of Legal. Correct was 10...Qe7> 13...Kf6 <Steps into a forced mate, but there's nothing better. 13...Qd6 14.Bxd6+ cxd6 15.Rxd1 Nf6 16.Nc4 b5 17.Nxd6 Kxd6 18.0-0 with an easy win> 14...Kxe5 <It's mate next move with 15.Rf5++, but no better was 14...Kg5 15.Be3+ Kh4 16.Rf5! Qd4 17.Bxd4 a6 18.Bf2+ Ng3 19.hxg3++> |
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| Dec-31-05 | | sneaky pete: <syracrophy> You misplaced the quotation marks, it should be <It's nice to see the great pretender "make" miniatures like this one.> |
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| Jan-28-06 | | Z.Ramsay: amazing! Alekhine really knows these mating combinations well.. |
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| Apr-12-06 | | Paintbucket: 11.Nxe5!!
This is why Alekhine is one of the best Attacking players to ever play the game. |
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Apr-13-06
 | | Benzol: <Paintbucket> This game is really a whitewash. :) |
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| Jun-12-06 | | blingice: Alekhine's traps (and I suppose attacks) seem like something you'd have to find out from someone else or by accident rather than through playing it in a game as the first time it's been played. Opening Explorer found three other games with the exact same position after White's 10th move: Spielmann vs Schlechter, 1906
Spielmann vs H Caro, 1907
Alekhine vs O Tenner, 1911
...but none of them have the same move for black's tenth. You'll notice that all of the games linked are all before or in the same year as this game, so I think that fairly assures us that this fantastic attack won't occur again. |
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| Jun-21-06 | | kakhander: A masterpiece by Alekhine the great. |
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| Nov-22-06 | | Whitehat1963: Alekhine tenia hambre! Tenner tuvo que bajar la cabeza! |
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| Mar-25-09 | | WhiteRook48: Alekhine really flew off the handle at Tenner's king |
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| Aug-31-09 | | Xeroxx: O Tenner baum O Tenner baum
Wie treu sind deine Blätter! |
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Oct-16-09
 | | perfidious: This game never took place-see Reinfeld's 100 Instructive Games of Alekhine for the actual continuation. |
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| Oct-16-09 | | whiteshark: Here is their 'real' game: Alekhine vs O Tenner, 1911 |
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| Oct-16-09 | | Cercatore: very nice queen sacrifice! |
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