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Sergey Karjakin vs Vladimir Kramnik
"The Berlin Fall" (game of the day Jan-18-2024)
Dortmund Sparkassen (2004) (blitz), Dortmund GER, rd 5, Jul-27
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1-0

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Dec-20-06  rover: <Aseem> It was played in the rapid tibebreaks.
Dec-20-06  Aseem: <Rover> Thanks!!
Jan-25-07  AAAAron: Karjakin's endgame is very impressive!!! I wonder how Kramnik handled the loss. I bet he drank all the booze in his hotel room, then trashed the place. Kramnik does have that crazy look in his eyes.....
Sep-30-07  argishti: AWSOME ENDGAME!! wow!!
Dec-06-08
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  Fusilli: <AAAAron> LOL! Actually, he is probably one of the calmest GMs around, that's why your post is really funny. Amazing endgame. I wonder if Kramnik blew it.
Mar-05-09  WhiteRook48: totally messed up!
Mar-15-11
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  Penguincw: Nice game by Sergey Karjakin was only like 14 at the time and he just cut down Vladimir Kramnik who was classical world champion at the time.And,he cracked through the Berlin Wall Defense.A game this good deserves to be Game of the Day.Hmm.What kind of pun is good for ths game.Well,here's my pun:"Tearing Apart the Wall of Berlin".
Aug-22-12  Overgod: Well,here's my pun:"Tearing Apart the Wall of Berlin".

I would simply call it "The Berlin Fall"

:-)

Aug-09-15  lasola72: A tactical play in opposite color bishop.<awesome!!>
Aug-09-15  thegoodanarchist: <Overgod: Well,here's my pun:"Tearing Apart the Wall of Berlin".

I would simply call it "The Berlin Fall" >

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, "Mr. Karjakin, Tear Down This Wall!"

Aug-10-15
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  offramp: <thegoodanarchist: <Overgod: Well,here's my pun:"Tearing Apart the Wall of Berlin". I would simply call it "The Berlin Fall" >

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, "Mr. Karjakin, Tear Down This Wall!">

Hang on everyone I've got one based on a Smiths song:

"Aiwass Loki forage are bandana fanta jab in Evans's nose Amiss rabble now" something like that.

Aug-10-15  thegoodanarchist: < offramp:

Hang on everyone I've got one based on a Smiths song:

"Aiwass Loki forage are bandana fanta jab in Evans's nose Amiss rabble now" something like that.>

Did Chris Owen hack your account and use it to post?

Aug-11-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <thegoodanarchist>

I was looking for a job, and then I found a job,
And heaven knows I'm miserable now.

Aug-11-15  SpiritedReposte: Who doesn't love to see the Berlin Wall crumble?
Aug-11-15
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  offramp: <SpiritedReposte: Who doesn't love to see the Berlin Wall crumble?>

I am with you all the way, there. I detest the Berlin. I mean the modern version with the doubled c-pawns, not the Rio variation that Lasker and Korchnoi used to play.

Who sits down at a chessbaord as black and thinks, "If he plays 1.e4 I'll play the Berlin and have a wonderful time holding my position for 7 hours."?

Aug-11-15  SpiritedReposte: Lol and that vulgar, artificial castling...just an abomination!
Aug-13-15  thegoodanarchist: For some reason the top players love the Berlin Wall.

Like flies to a rotting badger carcass, they flock to it. Carlsen, Anand, Kramnik, Kasparov and more - they seem to never get enough of the Berlin Wall.

Aug-29-16  Alexandro: Until the 42nd move the game remained draw but the option has chosen by Kramnik turned the game unpredictable!
Oct-16-16  mandor: I changed the Berlin concept when I saw the Yasser video on it (youtube). Then I understand why became so popular. In my opinion, most of the commentators in Kasparov and Kramnik game do not understand at all.
Oct-16-16  mandor: The greatests minds in chess tried several ways to crack it.. and here we found a very creative idea from Karjakin.
Nov-23-16  Conrad93: The French should be played more often.
It's more interesting than the Berlin, and more solid.
Jul-20-17  Toribio3: Karjakin is a very strong player! His manner of playing is a combination of Smyslov and Botvinnik!
Jan-18-24  eaglewing: I really dislike 56... Ra3. Why should Black give the white King a row more to move (and soon he climbs up the rows), if not forced?

I think, the King should defend at the Queenside, because the white Bishop controls not a8. If rooks are traded down, there is a stalemate at a8. Correspondently, the black Bishop should defend g6 and if he can deny b1 from the white King, the Rook at a2 is not driven away there by the King alone.

Defending already with 54... Kd5 would leave open the move Bd3 against Kc1. Square d3 is a good position for the Bishop, he controls b1 and potentially a6 and g6, if the diagonal is not blocked by the own King. With the King advancing towards a6 (and a8) the Bishop might be placed at f5.

The white bishop cannot free the King, blocking on 2nd row, and defend both pawns. Against such moves counterattacking will be needed.

Jan-18-24
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  HeMateMe: helluva game, personalities aside.
Jan-18-24  goodevans: Played in the days when Karjakin was still a rising star and giving away almost 200 rating points to his World Champion opponent.

<30...hxg3?> cost Black a pawn as the pawn on g3 is clearly doomed whereas <30...fxe6> would have maintained the status quo. All Black's troubles seem to stem from that single pawn loss.

Maybe Black could have held but Karjakin's pressure was relentless.

<helluva game, personalities aside.>

Yes, great game and obviously Karjakin has since made himself persona non grata outside his adopted Russia but I was unaware of any major faults with Kramnik. Have I missed something?

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