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| Jul-21-09 | | AugustAle: I'm sure 'd have to play 20.Nd6+ OtB.
I'ts like a forced move, or a trainwreck. |
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| Jul-21-09 | | kevin86: Wow! The king hunt turns into a queen trap- |
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| Jul-21-09 | | davegras: Panno was really on his game. All sorts of pressure on Larsen. |
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Jul-21-09
 | | fm avari viraf: Bent Larsen, ultimately inviting a calamity of getting trapped in the cycle of survival. The more vigourously he tries to extricate himself, the more intricately he gets entangled. A beautiful & didactic game! |
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| Jul-21-09 | | SirChrislov: Quote of the Day, Aug-31-08:
"Whenever you have to make a rook move and both rooks are available, you should evaluate which rook to move and, once you have made up your mind...
move the other one!"
--Oscar Panno |
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| Jul-21-09 | | lzromeu: Maybe 28...Ke8 could avoid the terrible combination |
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Jul-21-09
 | | Check It Out: Panno had the initiative for most of the game it seems. 13...g6 may have started some problems, as 14.Bg5 seemed to be a thorn in black's side for some time. 19.Nc4 really seemed to take the ball and run, pushing the queen back to b8 eventually. I have no idea the position evals after 34.b3, but white's rook is very active compared to black's, and the black king is exposed. 34...Qb5 is obviously a ?? move. |
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Jul-21-09
 | | tpstar: Sometimes I'm right (1. c4 Nf6), but I can be wrong (2. Nc3 e6)/My own beliefs are in my song (3. Nf3 d5)/The butcher (4. d4 c6), the baker (5. e3 Nbd7), the drummer and then (6. Bd3 dxc4)/Makes no difference what group I'm in (7. Bxc4 b5)/I-I-I am everyday people (8. Bd3 Bb7), yeah yeah (9. e4 b4)/There is a blue one (10. Na4 c5) who can't accept the green one (11. e5 Nd5)/For living with a fat one (12. 0-0 cxd4) trying to be a skinny one (13. Re1 g6)/Different strokes for different folks (14. Bg5 Be7)/And So on and So on (15. Bh6 a6) and scooby dooby dooby (16. Rc1 Bf8)/Ooh sha sha (17. Bg5), we got to live together! [17. Bxf8 Kxf8 18. Nc5 Nxc5 19. Rxc5 Kg7  ]/I am no better (17 ... Qa5), and neither are you [17 ... Qb8!? ]/We are the same (18. Nd2 h6), whatever we do [18 ... Rc8!? 19. Nc4 Rxc4 20. Rxc4 Bg7  ]/You love me (19. Nc4 Qc7), you hate me (20. Ncb6 Qb8), you know me and then (21. Nxd7 Kxd7)/You can't figure out the bag I'm in (22. Bf6 Rg8)/I-I-I am everyday people (23. Be4 Qa7), yeah yeah (24. Rc4 Be7)/There is a long hair (25. Rxd4 Rgd8) who doesn't like the short hair (26. Bxd5 Bxd5)/For being such a rich one (27. Rxd5+! exd5) that will not help the poor one (28. e6+ fxe6)/Different strokes for different folks (29. Bd4 Qc7)/And So on and So on (30. Nb6+ Kc6) and scooby dooby dooby (31. Nxa8 Rxa8)/Ooh sha sha (32. Rxe6+ Kd7??), we got to live together! [32 ... Bd6  ]/There is a yellow one (33. Rxg6 Qc4) that won't accept the black one [33 ... Bd6 34. Be5!! Re8 35. Rxd6+ Qxd6 36. Bxd6 Kxd6 37. Kf1 ]/That won't accept the red one (34. b3) that won't accept the white one [34. Qg4+ secures victory Kc7 35. Be5+ ]/Different strokes for different folks (34 ... Qb5)/And So on and So on [34 ... Qc8 35. Be3 ] and scooby dooby dooby (35. Rb6)/Ooh sha sha [35. Bb6 Ke8 36. Qf3 Rd8 ], I-I-I am everyday people (1-0) - Sly and the Family Stone + Fritz 7, "Everyday People" |
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| Mar-19-11 | | Rama: The sequence from 18. Nd2 ..., to 22. Bf6 ..., reminds me of the scene in "Legend of Billy Jack" where he says, "I'm going to put this foot up against that ear, and there's nothing you can do about it." |
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| Apr-15-12 | | lemaire90: What a game. And the white queen never even moved. |
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| Jul-22-17 | | congrandolor: "How to win without moving you queen", incredible game! |
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| Jun-04-19 | | seneca16: Why is this listed as one of Larsen's notable tournaments when he lost to all the big hitters and only finished in the top 5 or 6? Was it a notable failure? |
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Jun-04-19
 | | perfidious: Maybe because Larsen won more games than anyone whilst finishing sixth ex aequo, a truly impressive feat. |
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| Dec-20-19 | | Walter Glattke: Preparing the fork, really nice. 28.-Ke8 29.exf7+ Kxf7 30.Rxe7+ Qxe7 31.Bxe7 Kxe7 Q and N for 2 rooks, one piece ahead. After 33.Rxg6 in the match white wins many pawns. |
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| Dec-20-19 | | EIDorado: Calculating up to the point where white takes on e6 is easy. The problem is to asses the resulting position, since the black king has a few options after the knight fork. |
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| Dec-20-19 | | Mini Morphy: I like 28 Q g4! |
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| Dec-20-19 | | SpamIAm: Larsen's own variation but he was Bent out of shape. |
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| Dec-20-19 | | malt: Gone for 28.Qg4 |
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| Dec-20-19 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: Even though finding the sacrifice theme 27.♖xd5+ exd5, I realized that 28.♕xd5+ ♔e8 doesn't work. I saw the line 28. ♕g4+ ♔e8 29. ♗xe7 ♕xe7 30. e6 f6 31. ♕xg6+ ♔f8 32. ♕xh6+ seems to win, or 28. ♕g4+ ♔c7 29. ♗xe7 when white attack continues and seems promissing, for example: 29...♖e8 30. ♖c1+ ♔b8 31. ♗d6+ ♔b7 32. ♕d7#. The move 29.e6! opens up the position, and surely I didn't see before the sequence 30.♗d4... 31.♘b6+ and 32.♘xa8. Very good! But, I got the wrong path 34. ♕a4+ ♔c7?, where even if 35. ♗e5+ ♔b7 36. ♕d7+ ♕c7 37. ♕xc7# ; the Black has the simple 34...♕b5 with long way for White to win. The trap for capture the ♕ was really unexpected! Although I doubt that Panno previewed it, at 27th move. However, if Black would answered 34...♕c7 35. ♕g4+ ♔e8 (♔d8 26.♗b6) 36. ♖g8+ ♗f8 37. ♕e6+ (♔d8 38. ♗f6+ ♕e7 39. ♕xe7+ ♔c8 40. ♖xf8#) 37...♕e7 38. ♕c6+ A. 38...♔f7 39. ♕g6# or B. 38.♔d8 39. ♗b6+ ♕c7 40. ♗xc7+ wins. Maybe the best possibility was 34...♕c8 35.♕g4+ ♔e8 36. ♖g8+ (♔f7? 37. ♕g6#) 36...♗f8 37. ♕g6+ ♔d7 38. ♕f7+ (♔d8? 39. ♗f6# ) 38...♔c6 (See diagram) 39.♖g6+ (♔b5 40. ♕xd5+ ♗c5 41. ♕c4+ ♔a5 42. ♗xc5 ♕b7 43. a3 check-mate near.) 39...♗d6 40. ♗e5 ♔c6! 40.♕xd5+ ♕c5 42. ♖xd6 with a long run too. Diagram: 
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| Dec-20-19 | | landshark: My best take on this was:
27.Rxd4 exd4
28.Qg4+ Ke8
29.Bxe7 Qxe7
30.e6 with good attacking chances.
If ... Kf8
31.exf7 Qxf7
32.Nc5 continues to keep Black very uncomfortable. Earlier, if 29.... Kxe7
30.e6 looks even more dangerous - |
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| Dec-20-19 | | landshark: Correction: 27.Rxd5 etc.
I missed the nice maneuver 28.e6+ followed by 29.Bd4. |
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| Dec-20-19 | | mel gibson: I saw the first move easily.
Stockfish 10 says:
27. Rxd5+
(27. Rxd5+ (♖d4xd5+ e6xd5 e5-e6+ f7xe6 ♗f6-d4 ♕a7-c7 ♘a4-b6+
♔d7-c6 ♖e1xe6+ ♔c6-b7 ♘b6xa8 ♖d8xa8 ♖e6xg6 ♖a8-c8 ♖g6-b6+ ♕c7xb6 ♗d4xb6
♔b7xb6 g2-g4 ♗e7-c5 ♔g1-g2 d5-d4 f2-f4 ♖c8-g8 ♔g2-f3 ♖g8-g6 f4-f5 ♖g6-d6
♕d1-d3 ♖d6-d8 ♕d3-d2 ♗c5-f8 h2-h4 d4-d3 ♔f3-e4 ♗f8-c5 g4-g5 h6xg5 h4xg5
♖d8-d4+ ♔e4-e5 ♖d4-d6 f5-f6 ♔b6-c7 ♔e5-f5 ♖d6-d5+ ♔f5-g4 ♖d5-d4+ ♔g4-h5
♖d4-d5 ♔h5-h6 ♖d5-d6 g5-g6 ♖d6xf6 ♕d2xd3 ♖f6-d6 ♕d3-c4 ♔c7-b6 ♕c4-e4 ♖d6-c6
♔h6-h5) +6.73/38 474)
score for White +6.73 depth 38 |
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| Dec-20-19 | | agb2002: White has a bishop and a knight for the bishop pair. White has 27.Nc3, putting more pressure on d5 and enabling a4 for queen, and 27.Rxd5+, trying to expose the black king. In the case of 27.Nc3 bxc3 28.Rxd5+ (28.Qa4+ Kc8 29.Rc1 Rd7) exd5 29.Qa4+ Kc8 (29... Kxe6 30.Qg4#!) 30.Bxe7 Qxe7 31.Qc6+ White only seems to achieve perpetual. In the latter case 27... exd5 28.e6+ (after 28.Qxd5+ Ke8 the attack seems to vanish; similarly after 28.Qg4+) looks good for White. For example, 28... fxe6 29.Bd4 (to incorporate the knight into the attack) 29... Qb7 30.Nb6+ recovers material while keeping the attack. I'd play 27.Rxd5+. |
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| Dec-20-19 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: In the last line of my comment, please consider: ♔b5! instead of ♔c6! (39...♗d6 40. ♗e5 ♔c6!) Sorry. |
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| Dec-23-19 | | patzer2: For our Friday Dec 20, 2019 puzzle (27. ?), the solution and game continuation 27. Rxd5+!! exd5 28. e6+! uses a double clearance maneuver to set up a decisive Knight fork after 28...fxe6 with 29. Bd4! Qc7 30. Nb6+ +-. If 28...Kc6 or 28...Kc8, then 29. Bd4 +- wins with little difficulty. If 28...Kc7, then 29. Bxe7 +- is clearly decisive. If 28...Ke8, then 29. exf7+ Kxf7 30. Rxe7+ +- wins easy. P.S.: Black's game goes bad with 17...Qa5?, allowing 18. Nd2! ± to +- (+1.78 @ 20 ply, Stockfish 9). Instead, 17...Qb8 18. Qc2 Bg7 = (+0.07 @ 21 ply, Stockfish 9) holds the game level. |
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