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Mar-04-08 | | Eyal: <You can present your opponents with treacherous and complicated positions were they had to be careful but blunder. That's what Carlsen did against Shirov> and Van Wely at Corus, and Ivanchuk... (perhaps even more similarly to this game, since here too he seemed to be in trouble and managed to extricate himself, though perhaps this time the trouble wasn't so great in the first place). Carlsen's resourcefulness in this type of play is really remarkable. Perhaps the most resourceful move of the game was 28.f5, sacrificing a second pawn to keep the initiative going and generate some more aggressive counterplay that would make life harder for Black. |
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Mar-04-08 | | you vs yourself: <dycotiles> There are no complications there. It was a forced mate. I might miss it in a real game but a 2750+ GM doesn't miss it very often. Even Carlsen would agree that he was a little lucky to get an extra half point. Anyway, my issue with your post has more to do with you calling Topalov lousy and questioning his skill based on 2 games played in a period when he's clearly not in form. |
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Mar-04-08 | | Riverbeast: Everybody blunders, including top GMs...Carlsen maybe just has a psychological advantage on Topalov...a lot of people don't like playing kids, or females, as someone else here mentioned. |
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Mar-04-08 | | square dance: <Anyway, my issue with your post has more to do with you calling Topalov lousy and questioning his skill based on 2 games played in a period when he's clearly not in form.> although i agree that there is no need to call super GMs names.(even if it is topalov -hehe) how do you know he's not in form? he's only had one outstanding result in the last couple of years and that was corus 07. otherwise i would say his linares score so far is about right. |
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Mar-04-08 | | giocle: Carlsen a World Champion Caliber!!! |
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Mar-04-08 | | you vs yourself: <how do you know he's not in form?> Missing forced lines, especially the ones involving his king safety, is one indication that a super GM is not in form. Also, in Morelia, he was telling Carlsen about how he didn't every second move. |
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Mar-04-08 | | square dance: ok, but arent all of those things typical of topalov throughout his career save that somewhat brief run of greatness? |
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Mar-04-08 | | Shams: when was the last time Carlsen beat an in-form SuperGM? seems like it's been a while. |
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Mar-04-08 | | you vs yourself: <square dance> I wasn't following chess before '05. So I am not sure how Topalov played before that. |
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Mar-04-08 | | square dance: <YvY> he was about the same as he has been since elista. a constant top 10 guy, but clearly below the KKA group. |
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Mar-04-08 | | Runings: Shams: I'd say Aronian only a few rounds ago.. |
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Mar-04-08
 | | chancho: <a lot of people don't like playing kids, or females, as someone else here mentioned.> True, but Topalov is a real professional, so that should not be an issue for him. This Magnus kid has improved steadly, and his confidence playing the elite is sky high at present. Imagine this kid at 21. Holy Cow! |
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Mar-04-08 | | minasina: There were live commentaries: http://www.chessdom.com/morelia-lin... with GM Vladimir Dimitrov http://chesspro.ru/chessonline/onli... with GM Sergey Zagrebelny (RUS) (“Translated”: http://www.google.com/translate?u=h...
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http://online.crestbook.com/morlin-... with GM Sergei Shipov (RUS) |
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Mar-04-08 | | Ezzy: Carlsen - Topalov [A28]
04.03.2008
1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.d3 d5 5.cxd5 Nxd5 6.e4< I have a feeling this move is influenced by Carlsen's trainer Agdestein who has played this move before. The main line is 6 g3 6.>..Nb6 7.Be2 Be7 8.0–0 0–0 9.a4 Be6< Ivanchuk played 9...a5 and 10...f5 against Agdestein back in 1993. Ivanchuk won that game.> 10.Be3 <Novelty I think.> 10...Nd7 11.d4 exd4 12.Nxd4 Nxd4 13.Qxd4 c6 14.a5 Nc5 15.Qe5 Nb3 16.Ra4 Bd6 17.Qh5 <[17.Qg5 Qxg5 18.Bxg5 Bc7 and black wins the a5 pawn 19.a6 b5 and whites rook gets trapped.]> 17...g6 18.Qh6 Be5 19.Bg5 Qc7 20.Be3 Nxa5 21.f4 Bg7 22.Qh4 Bb3 23.Rd4 Rad8 <Topalov usually sacs the exchange. It's ironic that Carlsen offers Topalov a dose of his own medicine. Topalov doesn't accept the medicine. [23...Bxd4 24.Bxd4 (with the idea 25 Qf6 and mate in 3) 24...f5 25.exf5 Qd7 26.Bc5 Qd8 27.Qf2 Rxf5 28.Bg4 Rf7 29.Ne4 and I don't think Topalov liked the position with weak dark squares around his weakened king and his knight out of play.] >24.e5 Rxd4 25.Bxd4 c5 26.Be3 f6 27.Nb5 Qd8 28.f5<Carlsen decides to go for the attack threatening the strong 29 Fxg6, but this move is risky as black starts to win pawns.> 28...fxe5 29.Bg5 Qb6 30.f6 <White is 2 pawns down, he has to keep the attack going >30...c4+ 31.Kh1 [31.Rf2] 31...Qxb5 32.fxg7 Rxf1+ 33.Bxf1 Kxg7 34.Bd8 <Because white threatens mate in 6 - eg 35 Qf6+ Kg8 36 Qe6+ Kf8 37 Be7+ Kg7 38 Bf6+ Kf8 39 Qe7+ Kg8 40 Qg7mate Topalov should have covered the e6 square with 35...Qd5. > 34...Nc6?? <A nightmare for Topalov who is now mated. [34...Qd5 35.Bxa5 Qxa5 36.Qe7+ and a draw]> 35.Qf6+ Kg8 36.Qe6+ Kf8 37.Bg5 1–0 It’s nice to see Carlsen attacking with vigour against one of the world’s best attacking players. He put so much pressure on Topalov, that eventually Carlsen forced a blunder. It was one of those games when you were unsure whether the result would be white win , white loss, or a draw. Being 2 pawns down, Carlsen had to maintain his attack, which he did with great skill. So a double for Carlsen over the former world champion. Can’t be bad!! |
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Mar-04-08 | | ChessNe1: now all he has to do is learn how to beat Leko. |
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Mar-04-08 | | samikd: Wow Carlsen always beats Topalov and loses to Anand and Leko ! |
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Mar-04-08 | | znprdx: 23.Rd4 is an astounding move - the type of move that contributes to global warming. It will still be discussed long after Carlsen retires from Chess as the undisputed World Champion. BTW Topalov was lost OTB - that is the point - he cracked when Carlsen played Qh6.....As for losing to Leko - na he just overeached with ...d5 and then underestimated the h-pawn counterplay. |
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Mar-05-08
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: I've played a similar pawn formation vs. my Treo's Chess Tiger, usually after the opening moves 1.a3!!,e5; 2.c4,Nf6; 3.d3,d5? (Chess Tiger always fall for this); 4.cxd5,Nxd5; 5.Nf3,Nc6; 6.e4, which I think is even better than Carlsen's idea--and that probably explains why *he* is the GM. |
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Mar-05-08 | | Gilmoy: <znprdx: ... the type of move that contributes to global warming.> Dang -- my best moves only result in (my opponent's) sulfur emissions. |
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Mar-05-08 | | melianis: Ah, the second I stopped following this thinking it's a draw Topalov makes a blunder. |
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Mar-05-08 | | Ulhumbrus: On 29...Bf6?? 30 fxg6! (Eyal) both attacks h7 a second time and discovers a third attack upon the B on f6. This suggests that the move 28 f5 is in fact an answer to the threat of ...fxe5 posed by the move 27...Qd8 and that in turn suggests looking for an alternative to 27...Qd8. One alternative is 27...Qb8, keeping the e5 pawn under attack, so that on 28 f5 Black has the move 28...Qxe5. Another possibility is 27...Qb6 at once in which case after 28 f5 fxe5 White cannot play f6 as he does not have a B on g5 yet. |
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Mar-05-08 | | Ulhumbrus: After 10 Be3 10...f5 may be the quickest way to equalize. The opening is a reversed Sicilian. However whereas White's aim in a Sicilian is to gain the advantage, Black only has to play for equality, and that is an easier task. In effect, Black is playing the White side of s Sicilian where he needs only to gain equality. That may be the reason why Reti says that an opening suitable for playing for equality with Black may be not the beat way to play for an advantage with White, unless the first move has the effect of passing the opening initiative to White. |
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Mar-05-08 | | luzhin: When Topalov blunders it's usually because he is still trying to win a game after he has let a big advantage slip. For example, he must have seen that after 34...Qd5 white planned 35.Bxa5 Qxa5 36.Qe7+ with a perpetual.But he wanted more(hence 34..Nc6??) and this overoptimism blinded him to the simple switchback 37.Bg5 |
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Mar-05-08 | | Eyal: <Ulhumbrus: One alternative is 27...Qb8, keeping the e5 pawn under attack, so that on 28 f5 Black has the move 28...Qxe5. Another possibility is 27...Qb6 at once in which case after 28 f5 fxe5 White cannot play f6 as he does not have a B on g5 yet.> 27...Qb8? is bad because it allows 28.Bxc5 - and unlike the game (with the black queen on d8), after 28...fxe5 White has time for 29.Bxf8, since his queen at h4 isn't under threat. 27...Qb6, on the other hand, might have been a better option for Black - though after 28.f5 fxe5 29.fxg6 Rxf1 30.Bxf1 hxg6 31.Qe7 White still seems to have strong initiative for the sacrificed pawns, and Black has to defend very carefully. |
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Mar-05-08 | | arjunkakar: Carlsen is young therefore has a lot more to learn about theory to master it. His genius..is tacticts. He is a prodigy. That explains why he has had limmited success with anand (so far). Its becuase Anand himself is the master of tactics and therefore the edge carlsen seems to have over other players isnt so much over anand. Anand is perhaps the only person in this league calculating faster than carlsen. However being just 17 now , Carlsen surely has a great chance of over passing all the rest in due cource. Thats if he doesnt burn out.. Like kamsky |
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