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Jul-30-12 | | Ulhumbrus: 36...Kg8 instead of 36...Qb2+ suggests that Carlsen thinks that he has a chance to win. He does have an extra pawn, and although White's pieces seem placed well it does not take much to turn a promising position into a lost position. Wang Hao has prevented ..Qb2 by 37 Rd2. |
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Jul-30-12
 | | OBIT: Hao only has a couple of minutes on his clock. I'm sure Carlsen want to at least play to the time control. |
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Jul-30-12 | | Ulhumbrus: 38...Nf8-d7 keeps the knight on d3 out of the square e5 |
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Jul-30-12 | | Eyal: Bologan-Bacrot drawn. Not very important for the standings, but I suppose both have a reason for being at least mildly satisfied - Bologan for finally not losing and Bacrot for finally not losing with the KID. |
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Jul-30-12
 | | WannaBe: 38. Nd3, why white didn't want to play e5 and back up the knight with a pawn? And leave that (d6) knight there? |
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Jul-30-12
 | | Gypsy: <38.Nd3> Black now has to deal with the threat of Ne5 and Nxf7. |
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Jul-30-12 | | Marmot PFL: I white plays e5 black plays Nd5 |
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Jul-30-12
 | | Gypsy: <40. Rc2 c5> I'd say Black is gaining ground; and it is now White who needs to prove a draw. |
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Jul-30-12 | | Eyal: <WannaBe: 38. Nd3, why white didn't want to play e5 and back up the knight with a pawn? And leave that (d6) knight there?> The Black knight would get a very good outpost on d5. |
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Jul-30-12 | | Marmot PFL: Black has Rb4 option now, sacrifice the exchange for a supported passed pawn. Not easy to assess that. |
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Jul-30-12 | | Ulhumbrus: Wang Hao may have little choice but to settle for a draw after winning the a5 and c5 pawns in return for the a4 pawn |
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Jul-30-12 | | Eyal: 41.Qxa5 should lead to a draw after 41...Qxa5 42.Nxa5 Ra8 43.Nb7 Rxa4 44.Nb/dxc5 eliminating all Q-side pawns. |
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Jul-30-12 | | watwinc: Is Wang trying to lose? |
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Jul-30-12 | | Ulhumbrus: One way for Black to get into trouble is 41 Nd3-e5 Nxe5?! 42 Nxe5 Rb4?! 43 Qxc5 Rxa4 44 Qe7 and suddenly Black is unable to defend the f7 pawn. However this sequence is not forced eg Black has the alternative of 42...Rc8 |
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Jul-30-12 | | Ulhumbrus: 41...Rb7 may turn out to be a mistake after 42 Rxb7 Qxb7 43 Nxa5 because Black's passed c pawn is blockaded and White's more distant passed a pawn is not. |
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Jul-30-12 | | haydn20: 42. Rxb7 Qxb7 43. Qb2 Qa6 and Black has maybe a +0.5 "machine advantage"--not enough to win. |
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Jul-30-12 | | talisman: trade queens, get the c pawn, draw. |
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Jul-30-12 | | talisman: ♕b2.... |
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Jul-30-12 | | haydn20: I meant White has a machine adv. oc |
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Jul-30-12
 | | OBIT: It's strange how Houdini gave Hao a 0.42 advantage after Rxb7, then a 0.17 advantage after Carlsen played the totally forced Qxb7 |
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Jul-30-12 | | haydn20: <Ulhumbrus> I've been thinking for several moves that the a pawn is better than the c pawn as you noted. |
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Jul-30-12 | | Ulhumbrus: <haydn20: <Ulhumbrus> I've been thinking for several moves that the a pawn is better than the c pawn as you noted.> Then I acknowledge your thought for several moves. |
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Jul-30-12 | | haydn20: Just noting that for once I was up to speed with you. Usually I'm several moves if not several variations behind :) |
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Jul-30-12 | | Eyal: 43.Nxa5 wouldn't have brought White anything subtantial after 43...Qa6; 43.Qxa5? actually loses to Qb3 44.Ndb2 Ne5! or 44.Ncb2 Qc2+ followed by 45...c4 (but not 44...c4 immediately because of 45.Qb4!). |
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Jul-30-12 | | Marmot PFL: 42...Nb6 is a clever move as the knight is poisoned. |
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