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Sergey Karjakin vs Hikaru Nakamura
World Championship Candidates (2016), Moscow RUS, rd 2, Mar-12
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Check Variation Intermezzo Line (E15)  ·  1-0

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Mar-12-16
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  Sally Simpson: The sting in the tail.

We are quite vulnerable after a 'combination' and often rely on our in built the sense of danger to kick in rather than pure calculation.

Here. 29...Nxg3 looks good.


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There is no way the c1 Rook is going to c7. Three pieces cover c7.

Add in the unprotected piece on d3, quick check to see that White does not have Nd3 (the primary target) to f2 blocking the Qe3 check, no because that leaves the Rook on c1 (the secondary target) loose.

Looks good, quick scan to make sure White has no unexpected checks, (unexpected checks have ruined many a combination) none, and so you go for it.

JASAHA thinks there should be a collection of combo's with a hole in them. Just look through player's game collection, you will find them.

The winner of this game from last year...

Karjakin vs Svidler, 2015

....which was given the pun ""Kar Wreck".

galdur suggests the 29.h4 was played to tempt Nakamura to go for 29...Nxg3? so it was basically a TRAP.

Not sure about that one. The good guys don't set off the cuff traps especially it if involves pawn moves. It's usually how the great players beat the good players, taking advantage of loose pawn moves.

They might be there under the surface but a TRAP is not the key motive.

So back here. White to play.


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29.Nf5 Qg5 the knight goes back to d4.

How about 29.h4 to stop Qg5 then the Knight stays on f5 and g7 is being tickled.

Black cannot allow Nf5 he is going to have to chop on d4. Black will be left with a naff b7 Bishop.

But 29.h4 weakens the Kingside....can Black play Nxg3....

These good guys jump into the think tank before moving any middle game pawn and one around the King always gets that little bit extra.

How many games have you seen lost because of a weakening pawn move in a castled position...thousands. You don't play these pawn moves willy-nilly.

White saw the flaw in Nxg3 and played 29.h4. You have to say that because the only other explanation is that Karjakin missed 29...Nxg3 and he was lucky and I've seen 'lucky' stings in the tail, this is not one of them.

But I bet for a brief moment he got a fright when Nakamura took on g3. 'what have I missed, I thought Black could not play this." Fortunately if you have done your work correctly this lasts for only a moment.

Good Game.

Mar-13-16  MCDreamz: A most welcome result.

It would be an insult to the game if the one with the worst record against the champion will be the challenger for the championship.

There's absolutely no chance this Nakameagol will win even a single game in a match against his master and tormentor Carlsen.

Mar-13-16
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  perfidious: <ChessYouGood: Just Nakamura illustrating, once again, why he is not cut out for chess at the top level.>

<MCDreamz....It would be an insult to the game if the one with the worst record against the champion will be the challenger for the championship.>

You two would set Nakamura straight at the board--if you were able to get in through the front door.

Mar-13-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: Hi perfidious,

You must know by now you always get silly comments when a good player miscalculates.

I might qualify in the stupidity stakes as well and be way off course, but I try to find a reason, an explanation rather than insult the player or fall off my chair in shock.

Maybe some have never played an OTB pressure game so these mistakes, which to me prove chess is alive and well, are to them abhorrent and a sign the player has gone insane.

PS: Just read that Karjakin spent 25 minutes pondering the position after 29..Nxg3. I may have to re-write my Karjakin was not lucky bit or maybe he was just savouring the moment or considering the amount of time he gets in time trouble simply getting a thrill watching his time evaporate.

25 minutes is a long time as this level to refute a trick you saw coming.

It's obvious Nakamura in his mind's eye never saw the Rook going to c7 with 3 bits covering c7. If he had then Nxg3 would have got a one post suggestion and a quick, computer checked, refutation.

Ever had someone play an unexpected combo against you and it's flawed, only you did not see the flaw till after they played it. I have quite a few times both for and against.

Mar-13-16  dynamica: The move 29.......Ng3??
Mar-13-16  Fanques Fair: It´s ironic that the 2 decisive games so far were decided by a missed combination in Anand x Topalov, in which Black failed to see a very promising stroke Bxf2, which would lead to an advantage, and by a flawed combination Nxg3 , also by Black, simply refuted by White.
Mar-13-16  Ulhumbrus: When making a combination one can see what one's moves gain, but one can also overlook the concessions which one's moves can make to the opponent. In this case after 29...Ng3?? 30 fg3 the move 30...Nd4 makes the concession of displacing a defender of the c7 square. On 31 Bd4 Bd4 displaces a second defender of the c7 square. On 32 ed4 Qe3 displaces the third and last defender of the c7 square.

<...Vladimir Kramnik who was in the commentary box during round two, rightly pointed out: <“Black must do something pretty soon or else he would simply have to suffer for the rest of the game.”>...>

The move 18...Nxc5 acquires an isolated d pawn. If Black will not gain enough counterplay from this an alternative is to acquire the hanging pawns by 18...bxc5. This is more risky but also gains more attacking chances eg as in the game Vaganian vs Karpov, 1969

Mar-13-16  1971: I agree with <jphamlore> Nakamura playing the QID (Karjakin's pet opening) against him was a colossal blunder and Karjakin proved it by playing this game in textbook, model game fashion. Just a strange decision from Nakamura.
Mar-13-16  Pulo y Gata: If Nakamura won, of course he'll be hailed for a brilliant psychological ploy putting an opening mirror to Karjakin. Such is the life of a top GM. What a blessed life being a kibitzer!
Mar-13-16  MCDreamz: <Pulo y Gata: If Nakamura won, of course he'll be hailed for a brilliant psychological ploy putting an opening mirror to Karjakin. Such is the life of a top GM. What a blessed life being a kibitzer!>

Stop being so dramatic. You're making this kibitzer cringe!

Mar-13-16  MCDreamz: <perfidious: <ChessYouGood: Just Nakamura illustrating, once again, why he is not cut out for chess at the top level.>

<MCDreamz....It would be an insult to the game if the one with the worst record against the champion will be the challenger for the championship.>

You two would set Nakamura straight at the board--if you were able to get in through the front door.>

Hi. It's good to see you.

Mar-13-16  1971: <Pulo y Gata> Except he didn't, he lost.

But please, when you find the door to that alternate universe, pass it along.

Mar-13-16  amuralid: I think Karjakin's big victory in this game was to impose his style of chess. They stuck to classical themes and concepts. There were very few chances for Nakamura to complicate matters. Karjakin made Nakamura play a style of chess that Hikaru finds uncomfortable. It was good psychology. Karjakin's approach to the game increased the chances of a blunder from Nakamura.

Mistakes like Nxg3 are rare, but they happen. In hindsight, Nxg3 looks like a mistake. But I have played at a high enough level to know that if a strong opponent gives you piece, chances are that you are on the losing end of a combination. It is not surprising that Karjakin took 25 minutes to make sure he did not overlook something.

Mar-13-16  1971: <amuralid> Yes, you're right the puzzling thing is that it was Nakamura who chose this terrain which better suited Karjakin who is at home in these structures.
Mar-13-16  amuralid: <1971> I agree. I was surprised at that too. The first time I looked at the position, I assumed Karjakin was black! I think this sort of meta-strategy comes with experience and Nakamura will learn and adapt over time.

Nakamura basically went into a line that had two outcomes:

a) push <c5> and accept either an isolated pawn or a slightly weak central pawn chain

b) push <c6> and accept slightly passive position

Both choices suit his style a little less than active positions. With so tiny a concession, most GMs cannot convert or even torture a player of Nakamura's caliber. But these 8 players are at a whole different level of chess that it is fascinating to watch!

Mar-13-16  The Kings Domain: It seems Nakamura got impatient and miscalculated. :-)
Mar-13-16  1971: <amuralid> Great analysis. With players so equal in strength it's it's small decisions like an opening choice that tip the scales and decide the outcome.
Mar-13-16  sonia91: <Sally Simpson: PS: Just read that Karjakin spent 25 minutes pondering the position after 29..Nxg3. I may have to re-write my Karjakin was not lucky bit or maybe he was just savouring the moment or considering the amount of time he gets in time trouble simply getting a thrill watching his time evaporate.

25 minutes is a long time as this level to refute a trick you saw coming.> Actually the times given by c24, chessbomb etc., are not correct, the game suddenly frozen afer Nxg3 and while the board was still showing the position after the aforementioned move, Nakamura already resigned. The remaining moves were added after.

Mar-13-16  Pulo y Gata: <Mar-13-16 1971: I agree with <jphamlore> Nakamura playing the QID (Karjakin's pet opening) against him was a colossal blunder and Karjakin proved it by playing this game in textbook, model game fashion. Just a strange decision from Nakamura.>

Ok, i then agree that opening is the be-all and end-all of chess. Thanks for enlightening us.

Mar-13-16  1971: It's not but it determines the style of play which suits some players better than others. The Queens Indian is an opening that Karjakin has much more experience than Nakamura so he better understands the underlying themes and plans. It was clear even in the post game analysis when Karjakin demonstrated typical ideas for the position that Nakamura missed.
Mar-13-16
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  Sally Simpson: Thanks Sonia91,

I got it from here on the World Championship Candidates thread:

"Rama: Naka spent 8-9 minutes on the N-sac, then 25 minutes smelling it while Sergei worked it out. Don't we know the feeling."

I knew boards were frozen everywhere, I figured this guy saw the live feed.

Good. No re-write.

Hi Ulhumbrus,

I see you too have spotted the three on the trot moves all weakening c7. I'm sure Problemists will have a term for it (they have a unique term for everything else.) If not then it's a Nakamura!

Hi Pulo,

Of course you are right. This posting in hindsight is a wonderful gift.

Nakamura did not flip a coin to decide what opening to play. Rather than sit there waiting to see what improvement Karjakin had up his sleeve v his KID, he made Karjakin wonder what improvement Nakamua had v his QID.

The possible pre-game plan being to get Karjakin to analyse everything into dust, get him into his habitual time and trouble and bounce him with a tactic.

The slight flaw being Karjakin did not get into time trouble and the tactic had a hole in it.

Hindsight (the kibitzers domain) dictate the whole plan was written in pencil on the back of a brown envelop but it's better than throwing arms up in despair howling why did Nakamura play the QID like he did it on the spur of the moment.

Pula is right again (he's rarely wrong) if Nakamura had won the crowd here would be lording him as the new Lasker.

The game was lost by a piece of miscalculation which could have come from any opening. As for style, players of Nakamura's ilk have the ability to infuse complications in any opening and Nakamura is much more than just a one trick pony.

Kings Domain is closer saying Nakamura got impatient and miscalculated. It's as simple as that.

Mar-13-16  1971: Except he lost. There is no if he would have won talk because he lost. When you find the door to that alternate reality just jump in and stay there.

He played into his opponents most well known opening. That's pretty stupid. He could have played the Queens Gambit instead, but he walked into Karjakin's pet line instead. An idiotic move. Fact is he lost.

Mar-13-16  1971: Hindsight is my domain but playing is too as I would beat both of you in a game even if you combined your strength.
Mar-13-16  1971: And unless you accept my challenge and beat me you're just two patzers looking from the same low vantage point agreeing with each other.
Mar-13-16  Pulo y Gata: Lol, take it easy 1971. There is <if> talk precisely because he lost. In fact, there would be an <if> talk if he won, or even drawn. that's part of kibitzing. don't take disagreements too seriously.

If you're visiting the philippines anytime soon, let me know. We can play some games then.

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