Francisco Vallejo Pons vs Magnus Carlsen (2019) Vallejo of Tears

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Francisco Vallejo Pons vs Magnus Carlsen
"Vallejo of Tears" (game of the day Jan-24-2022)
GRENKE Chess Classic (2019), Karlsruhe GER, rd 2, Apr-21
Spanish Game: Morphy Defense. Neo-Archangelsk Variation (C78) · 0-1

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Apr-21-19		rogge: Carlsen's rating performance in 2019: 2935 (+12 =12 -0)

Apr-21-19		john barleycorn: <Sokrates: ... Very true, but as I'm sure you know, Morphy never faced any worthy opponents during his entire career. They were all way below his level. ...> Looks like Carlsen had not seen a worthy opponent for a while. What is he to do? Stop playing chess like Morphy did? "Sokrates" (the original one from Greece) would want to scrutinize your statement for its "bs" content. ... :-)

Apr-21-19		MrMelad: <Sokrates> They weren’t worthy compared to Morphy but they were the best in the world. Kinda like the same with Magnus lately.

Apr-21-19		Ulhumbrus: <Sokrates: ... I am in awe watching this game. Most of us would probably have thought winning a K+R+B vs. K+N+B endgame would cost such immensely hard brainwork and concentration, that we'd give up trying to make effort.> One example of a possible explanation is that Carlsen has by now learnt more than most about how to make good use of his rook and bishop in such an ending. If he has been making the right use of his time so as to gain the right training and so has made progress in this as well as other things the other GMs will be at a handicap unless they also manage to make the right use of their time to as to gain the right training.

Apr-21-19		PawnSac: < rogge: <PawnSac: MC's live rating is back up to 2862> 2865, actually > ah so it is.. i went there a few minutes ago and it was 2862 +17 and the right hand side showed all round 2 games completed, so i thought they already refreshed his rating. so he only needs 18 points to beat his former top score!

Apr-21-19		MrMelad: <john barleycorn> If Morphy was making as much money of chess as Carlsen is, his father would probably approve him playing and he wouldn’t have retired at 21 and would go on to face (and beat) Steinitz in due time

Apr-21-19		beenthere240: What’s amazing to me is that Carlsen knocked out a flurry of pawn moves in the late opening and early middle game that looked loosening if not reckless. Pons reacted by burning up misread his time. This isn’t experience IMO but remarkable vision.

Apr-21-19		Sokrates: Are you trying to mock me, Mr. <john barleycorn>? If or if not, please elaborate.

Apr-21-19		Sokrates: Thanks for your thoughts, <Ulhumbrus> - make sense to me, and I concur.

Apr-21-19		john barleycorn: <Sokrates> my post ended with a :-)

Apr-21-19		PawnSac: After 65...Rf8+ click for larger view White played 66.Ke1 . Comical would have been 66.Kg2 Rf2+ 67.Kh1 Rxe2?? 68.Bd3+ draw

Apr-21-19		beenthere240: Check computer evals throughout the game. No jumps greater than a few decipawns. Pons made no blunders-only a few inaccuracies. I imagine that Pons still doesn’t know where he went wrong. Maybe at e4. ;-)

Apr-21-19		beenthere240: Has anyone seen any posted interviews? Thanks

Apr-21-19		chancho: https://youtu.be/EPIsFkacyo8?t=5486

Apr-21-19		Sokrates: <john barleycorn: <Sokrates> my post ended with a :-)> Yeah, well, I saw mixed signals. And the "bs" was unexpected. But I get it, so we're good.

Apr-21-19		john barleycorn: < chancho: https://youtu.be/EPIsFkacyo8?t=5486> Thanks. does Gustaffson suffer from a face paralysis or is he always looking so intelligent? :-)

Apr-21-19		Steve.Patzer: Stockfish seems to indicate 66. Kg2 would survive for a while.

Apr-21-19		beenthere240: <Chancho> Thanks for the link!

Apr-21-19		beenthere240: I wish MC had discussed his odd opening strategy in the interview.

Apr-21-19		GM Maybe: @#$%*!& Magnus! Some guys are obviously trying to make a deity out of him. Aren't you overreacting with that???

Apr-21-19		Breunor: According to Stockfish, the losing move is 65 Kf1. White can hold with Ng3, Bh7, or Bb1 which all evaluate to -0.5-0.6. After 65 Kf1 the evaluation is -4.04. Unfortunately too subtle for me.

Apr-21-19		parmetd: <Breunor> @#$%*&!#. Stockfish doesn't understand this endgame. Luckily, we have known it was lost since entered this endgame on move 50 because it is in the six piece tablebases.

Apr-21-19		devere: <Breunor: According to Stockfish, the losing move is 65 Kf1> R+B vs B+N with opposite colored bishops is in principle winnable. The only limitation is the 50 move rule. With same colored bishops it is a draw! I wonder if Magnus Carlsen knew that all along. I certainly didn't, until I saw this game.

Apr-21-19		Kaspablanca: Morphy oponents(with some exceptions of course) were so weak he had to give knight or rook odds, Morphy simply was 75 to 100 years ahead of his time in chess understanding, Steinitz would be a worthy and a dangerous oponent,back to this game the move that could save Vallejo was Kf2 but niether him nor Carlsen saw the stalemate resource.

Apr-21-19		frogbert: The losing move was 48. Bc6?, because the endgame after 48. Rxg3! Bxg3 49. Kxg3 is in fact a draw when black has R+N (instead of R+B) against B+N - unless the inferior side loses material immediately, of course. Did I know before this game? Obviously not.

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