Jan-13-20
 | | An Englishman: Good Afternoon: If sound, quite the brilliancy, not just because White offers his Queen twice for the sake of his passed pawns, but also because of how van Foreest found his way through the mayhem of rather a wild game. |
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Jan-13-20 | | MordimerChess: That's really impressive game. Interesting is that the theory of the openings get very deep here. Jorden van Foreest said that the move 16.. Qd7 isn't good, even many people play it. And he wins again (like in first round of Tata Steel 2020) by powerful attack on the queen side. And again against Sicilian Defence, really impressive preparation. Dubov fighted well and he is known from sharp tactics and creation of powerful mating attacks. The game is really enjoyable. I recorded game analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjU... I also included interview with Jorden thru the video. But keep in mind the game is so complex and complicated that it's quite long 25 minutes video and I still couldn't include some interesting lines. Anyway, enjoy! ;) |
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Jan-13-20
 | | Penguincw: Stunning queen sac, in exchanged for passed pawns. And they were isolated passed pawns too. |
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Jan-14-20 | | dashjon: Just a well played game. The queen sac for the pawns to march was wonderful to watch. |
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Jan-14-20 | | fisayo123: Spectacular game by van Foreest. I always considered him to be an impressive tactician, regardless of who he's facing. Already game of the day as well. |
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Jan-14-20
 | | offramp: A really good game, played yesterday. The pun is appropriate because Jorden van Foreest 's ancestors literally came from a forest. They evolved in the north of the Veluwe, a Dutch forest. They evolved from lemurs. |
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Jan-14-20 | | WorstPlayerEver: The Veluwe is a park. Besides, the van Foreests come from Holland afaik, from the swamp. |
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Jan-14-20
 | | Stonehenge: The Van Foreest name is already mentioned in 1241: knight Willem van Foreest. |
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Jan-14-20 | | WorstPlayerEver: <Stonehenge>
Yes, but as 'W. de Foresto.' The name 'Wilhelmus van Foreest' is mentioned in 1278. |
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Jan-14-20 | | Autoreparaturwerkbau: I Do not understand 21...f5, to me 21...e4 seems like no-brainer attacking both Q and R. Then i checked SF10 (37 ply), which agrees:
(1) ...e4, +0,8
(2) ...f5, +1,2
(3) ...Rfd8, +1,5 |
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Jan-14-20 | | paavoh: I do not know much about this Sicilian variation, but just looking at the pawn formations after 13.d4 makes me wonder how can Black wiggle out of that structural disadvantage in the center. Move -e5 seems the critical response, and here White is able to circumvent that tactically. I'd like to hear what more experienced players have to say. |
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Jan-14-20 | | paavoh: <They evolved in the north of the Veluwe, a Dutch forest. They evolved from lemurs.> That is one big forest, extending all the way to Madagaskar - or lemurs or their descendants could swim long stretches ... |
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Jan-14-20 | | RandomVisitor: After 16.Nb5
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<62/67 4:02:29 0.00 16...Qf6 17.Qxf6 Bxf6> 18.dxe5 Bxe5 19.Ba3 Rfd8 20.Rad1 Nd5 21.c4 Ndb4 22.Be4 a6 23.Rxd8+ Rxd8 24.Na7 a5 25.Nxc6 Nxc6 26.Rb1 Nd4 27.Bxb7 Nxb3 28.c5 Rd2 29.c6 Bc7 30.Kf1 a4 31.Re1 Bb6 32.Re8+ Kg7 33.g4 Rxf2+ 34.Ke1 Rc2 35.Bf8+ Kf6 36.Be7+ Kg7 37.g5 Ba5+ 38.Kf1 Nd2+ 39.Ke2 Nb3+ 62/79 4:02:29 +0.13 16...Qd7 17.Rd1 exd4 18.Nxd4 Nxd4 19.cxd4 Rfe8 20.Ra5 Qc6 21.Qxc6 bxc6 22.Kf1 Nd5 23.Ba3 Rad8 24.Bc5 Nc3 25.Rd2 Nb5 26.g4 Nxd4 27.Rxa7 Ne6 28.Rxd8 Rxd8 29.Be7 Rb8 30.Bd6 Rd8 31.Bg3 Nd4 32.Be4 Nxb3 33.Bxc6 Nd4 34.Be4 Ne6 35.Ra5 Bd4 36.Bd5 Kg7 37.Kg2 Nc5 38.Bc6 h6 39.h4 g5 40.hxg5 hxg5 41.Kf3 Kf6 42.Be4 Rd7 43.Rb5 Rd8 44.Bc7 Rc8 45.Bb6 Ne6 46.Bf5 Bxb6 47.Rxb6 Rd8 48.Bxe6 fxe6 49.Rb5 Rd7 50.Ra5 Rd8 51.Kg2 Rc8 61/88 4:02:29 +0.13 16...Qd5 17.Qxd5 Nxd5 18.Be4 Nf6 19.Bf3 a6 20.Nd6 exd4 21.c4 d3 22.Nxb7 Nd4 23.Be3 Nxf3+ 24.gxf3 Nd7 25.Rad1 a5 26.Rxd3 Ne5 27.Rd5 Nxf3+ 28.Kh1 a4 29.bxa4 Rxa4 30.c5 Nd4 31.Rb1 Ne6 32.Nd6 Ra6 33.Rb6 Ra2 34.Ne4 Rc8 35.Rd7 Rc2 36.Rbb7 Rf8 37.Ra7 Be5 38.Re7 Bg7 39.Nd6 Bf6 40.Rxf7 Bd4 41.Rxf8+ Kxf8 42.Bxd4 Nxd4 43.Ne4 h5 44.Kg2 Ne6 45.Kh2 Nd4 46.Kg3 Ne6 47.f3 Nxc5 48.Nxc5 Rxc5 49.Kf4 Rf5+ 50.Ke4 Kg8 51.f4 Rf8 52.Rb7 Rf7 53.Rxf7 Kxf7 |
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Jan-15-20 | | RandomVisitor: Curious, after 7.Bc2 Stockfish agrees with the entire game as a main line by transposition, and in my above analysis we see that if now 16...Qf6 in the game black is even... click for larger viewStockfish_20011312_x64_modern:
<63/86 10:07:18 +0.13 7...d5 8.exd6 Qxd6 9.Na3 g6 10.0-0 Bg7 11.b3 cxb3 12.axb3 0-0 13.d4 Bg4 14.h3 Bxf3 15.Qxf3 e5 16.Nb5> Qd7 17.Rd1 exd4 18.Nxd4 Nxd4 19.cxd4 Rfe8 20.Ra5 Qc6 21.Qxc6 bxc6 22.Ba3 Nd5 23.Kf1 Nc3 24.Rd2 Nb5 25.Bc5 Rad8 26.g4 Nxd4 27.Rxa7 Ne6 28.Rxd8 Rxd8 29.Be7 Rb8 30.Bd6 Rd8 31.Bg3 Nd4 32.Be4 Nxb3 33.Bxc6 Nd4 34.Be4 Ne6 35.Kg2 Bd4 36.Ra4 Kg7 37.Ra8 Rxa8 38.Bxa8 Kf6 39.h4 Ke7 40.Bf3 Kf6 41.Bd5 Bb6 42.h5 gxh5 43.gxh5 Bd4 |
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Jan-22-20 | | posoo: UNENGLISHMAN said - "IF SOUND" is brillancy"
BUT NOTHING is sound. EVERY great game has LOARDS of errurs so why can u not appreciate da brillance. Like OH IF STUCKfish or Rubka says otherwise then NO DA MAN IS DUMB. Da man is good at chess. |
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