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Marmaduke Wyvill vs Elijah Williams
London (1851), London ENG, rd 3, Jun-??
English Opening: Agincourt Defense (A13)  ·  1-0

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Jul-30-09  Knight13: 29...hxg6 30. Qxg6+ Bg7 31. Rf2 Rf8 32. R1f1 Bc8 33. Rf4 and the h-file would cause Black problems.
Mar-07-14
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  keypusher:


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After 34.b3 -- pretty funny queen trap.

Sep-23-14  Big Pawn: Check Wyvill out with 6.Bh5+. I don't know if I've ever played a move like that - even before I had a tournament rating.

I guess it's a testament to their creativity though. After all, they didn't have real theory back then.

Sep-23-14  Big Pawn: Looking at this quickly, it seems like 29...hxg6 30.Qxg6+ Bg7 31. Rf2 would allow 31...b4 winning the bishop and giving the black queen an avenue back to defend the king if needed.
Jun-02-16  sneaky pete: Position after 16.Bd2 ..


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Staunton in the tournament book gives 16... Q to K's 2nd and later 21... Q to K's 3rd. Schachzeitung (May/June 1852) however has 16... Dd1-c2 and 21... Dc2-c3. This tranlates as 16... Qc7 and 21... Qc6 (the first player, Wyvill, conducted the black pieces and the game started 1.c5 e3).

If 16... Qc7 17.Ne2 .. had really been played, there seems to be no objection to 17... Qxc4.

Aug-28-16
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  Phony Benoni: <sneaky pete> Not just 17...Qxc4, but almost any move up to 22, with 20...Qxc4 being particularly crushing. When such an opportunity shows up repeatedly in a game between good players, the score is usually suspect.

Certainly Staunton has the moves right, and someone along the way just misread "e" as "c".

There is also a question about Black's last move. I happened to see this game in the "Detroit Free Press" for September 10,1 859. They followed Staunton's move order earlier, and gave Black's last move as <35...P takes QBP>, or <35...bxc4>. That one makes no real difference in the game's outcome, of course, but it's still should be checked out.

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