Sultan Khan vs Edgard Colle (1930)

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Sultan Khan vs Edgard Colle
Scarborough (1930), Scarborough ENG, rd 10, Jul-03
Alekhine Defense: Exchange Variation (B03) · 0-1

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Oct-16-21		Dionysius1: I don't get it. Daniel King says "...in the opening, he [Sultan Kahn] wasn't used to moving pawns two steps, and that meant that sometimes he pushed pawns ridiculously quickly in the opening. There's a game against Edgar Colle, who very cleverly played the Alekhine's Defense against him, and Sultan Khan just kept pushing these pawns. Basically he just self-destructed." https://www.chess.com/article/view/... He played the usual e5, c4, d4 against the Alekhine, but where did he indulge in such an orgy of pawn pushing to justify GM King's comment? 9.h4 is maybe a bit early, but nothing to frighten the horses, and 12.c5 seems a reasonable enough reaction to 11...d5. I don't see cause for comment. Anyone?

Oct-16-21		Yuridmi: Dionysius1 I agree Mir Sultan Khan was a heavy-duty master-level player who lifted many scalps of the strongest players in the world, including Capablanca , Marshall and Rubinstein. He knew the openings, period. He lost this one to Colle but not from mishandling the opening

Oct-16-21		Breunor: Well Alekhine did say that if Sultan Khan knew modern (at that time) openings he woudl be playing him for the world championship. Maybe statements like that biased writers into thinking his opening play was causing trouble. At the time I don't think people felt 5 exd6 was enterprising although now computers say it is as good as anything. Similarly 6 Be2 looks passive (again, computers are fine with it nowadays). If I had to guess what King was referencing, I'm betting he didn't think 12 c5 was justified. It cost him about a half a pawn: 1) -0.13 (27 ply) 12.cxd5 Nxd5 13.O-O Bf5 14.Rc1 Rc8 15.Qb3 e6 16.Rfd1 Qb6 17.Qxb6 Nxb6 18.Bf3 Rfd8 19.d5 Ne5 20.dxe6 Nxf3+ 21.gxf3 fxe6 22.Bxb6 axb6 23.Re1 Rd2 24.Nce4 Rdc2 25.Rcd1 Be5 26.Rd7 Rxb2 2) -0.74 (27 ply) 12.c5 Nc4 13.Bxc4 dxc4 14.d5 Nb4 15.O-O Bf5 16.Bd4 Nd3 17.Bxg7 Kxg7 18.Qa4 f6 19.Nf3 Rc8 20.Qxc4 Rxc5 21.Qb3 Qb6 22.Qxb6 axb6 23.Nd4 Nxb2 24.Nxf5+ gxf5 25.Rab1 Nc4 26.Rfe1 Re8 27.Na4 Rxd5 28.Nxb6 Nxb6 29.Rxb6 Rd7

Oct-17-21		master8ch: 17.Rxf7, 17.Nxf7, and 17.Bxf7+ all seem to me superior to what White actually played.

Oct-18-21		Dionysius1: Hi <master8ch> What do have in mind if Black doesn’t take back that much on f7? Eg 17.Rxf7 RxF7 18.Nxf7 Qxh4 and I’d rather be Black – I’d have the threat of taking on b2, and White’s discovered check doesn’t scare me, and I’ve got active pieces and I’m a piece up. 17.Bxf7 Kh8 and I feel pretty safe with my piece up

Oct-21-21		whiteshark: <master8ch: 17.Rxf7, 17.Nxf7, and 17.Bxf7+ all seem to me superior to what White actually played.> This seems to be true, essentially. click for larger view White to move 1) <-1.43 (42 ply) 17.Bxf7+> Kh8 18.Qc2 Ne5 19.Bxg6 Rxf1+ 20.Rxf1 Qd2 21.Qe4 Bd7 22.Bxh5 Qd3 23.Qxd3 Nxd3 24.bxc3 Nxc5 25.c4 Rf8 26.Rf4 Nd3 27.Rf7 Rxf7 28.Nxf7+ Kg8 29.Nd6 Bf6 30.Bg6 Ne5 31.Bf5 Bxh4 32.Bxd7 Nxd7 33.Nxb7 Be7 34.e4 Ne5 35.c5 Kf7 36.Nd6+ Ke6 37.Kf2 Bxd6 38.cxd6 Kxd6 39.Ke3 Ng6 40.a4 Kc5 41.g4 Kd6 42.a5 Ke5 43.Kd3 Kf6 44.Kc4 Kg5 45.Kc5 Ne5 2) -3.51 (42 ply) 17.Rxf7 Rxf7 18.Bxf7+ Kh8 19.bxc3 Qxd1+ 20.Rxd1 Bf5 21.Bd5 Bxc3 22.Rf1 Ne5 23.Bxb7 Rb8 24.Be4 Bxe4 25.Nxe4 Ba5 26.Rd1 Kg7 27.g3 Bc7 28.Rf1 Ng4 29.Rd1 Be5 30.Rd7+ Kf8 31.Rxa7 Rb1+ 32.Kg2 Rb2+ 33.Kf1 Nxe3+ 34.Ke1 Rb4 35.Ng5 Bxg3+ 36.Ke2 Nd5 37.Kf3 Bxh4 38.Ne6+ Ke8 39.Ng7+ Kd8 40.Ne6+ Kc8 41.c6 g5 42.Ra8+ Rb8 43.Rxb8+ Kxb8 44.Ke4 Ne7 45.Ng7 Kc7 46.Nxh5 Kxc6 3) -5.66 (42 ply) <17.bxc3> Bf6 18.Nxf7 Rxf7 19.Qb3 Ne5 20.Rf4 a5 21.Raf1 Ra6 22.c6 Kg7 23.Bxf7 Rxc6 24.Bg8 a4 25.Qb5 Kxg8 26.Rxf6 Rxf6 27.Qxe5 Rxf1+ 28.Kxf1 a3 29.Kg1 Bf5 30.e4 Qb6+ 31.Kh2 Be6 32.c4 Kf7 33.Qf4+ Ke7 34.e5 Qc5 35.Qe4 Kf8 36.Qf3+ Ke8 37.Qxb7 Qxe5+ 38.Kh1 Qe1+ 39.Kh2 Qxh4+ 40.Kg1 Qe1+ 41.Kh2 Qe5+ 42.Kh1 Qc5 43.Qh7 Bf7 44.Qh8+ Kd7 45.Qc3 Bxc4 46.Qc2 Kc7 47.Qxg6 Bxa2 48.Qh6 60.0 minute analysis by Stockfish 11 v064

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