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Edward Lasker vs Alexander Alekhine
Duesseldorf (1908), Duesseldorf GER, rd 11, Aug-14
Philidor Defense: Hanham. Delmar Variation (C41)  ·  0-1

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Aug-01-04  Knight13: Good game!
Jan-06-06  chessmaster pro: so ed lasker is emanuel lasker's brother?
Jun-16-06  Bartleby: Addendum by Ed Lasker from his same autobiography, "Secrets I Learned from the Masters":

"The game I lost against Alekhine proved an instructive lesson through a remark which Emanuel Lasker made and which I have kept in mind throughout my chess career. When I resigned and got up from my chair I noticed Emanuel Lasker, who had been watching, standing in back of me. He said: "Do you know why you lost this game? You copied your opponent's moves in a symmetrical position in which he was a move ahead." I protested that I had not imitated Alekhine's moves. But Lasker said: "Just play the game over again, and you will find I am right." He was, indeed.

Feb-12-07  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 16 Nd2, 16 exf5 isolates Black's e pawn. 32 Rf2 defends the f3 pawn twice but with 32...Nxf3 Alekhine takes it all the same. It turns out that the f3 pawn has prevented a third attack on f3, the attack ...Bg4, an attack made possible by the removal of the f3 pawn so that on 33 Rxf3 Bg4 attacks f3 again. One might say that 32 Rf2 would defend f3 adequately but for the move ...Bg4, a move which ...Nxf3 makes possible. One can look at this in two ways. One is to say that after White prevents a move, Black prevails by playing the move which White has prevented all the same. Another way is to say that a move which appears to be prevented, for a reason which seems sufficient, is not in fact prevented at all, as the reason is not in fact sufficient.
Aug-23-08
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  TheTamale: <Bartleby>, "Chess Secrets I Learned from the Masters" is an awesome book. I read it several decades ago at the library. I remember it dealt more with personalities than it did with chess. If I remember correctly, it states that Alekhine was attracted to fat chicks when he was drunk.
Dec-23-08  WhiteRook48: how was Ed Lasker copying Alekhine? was he drinking alekwine?
Jan-11-09  WhiteRook48: why the resignation?
Aug-07-09  WhiteRook48: what happens after RxN?
Dec-23-09  rustyrook: If 33 Rxf3 then Bxg4 wins easily.
Dec-23-09  rustyrook: I believe Ed Lasker was not related to Emmanuel but they were very good friends.
Dec-23-09
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  paulalbert: Edward Lasker in his books and correspondence originally said he was not related to Emanuel. Later ,he apparently cited some genealogical information provided by Emanuel that suggested they had some common ancestors and were very distantly related. Paul Albert
Dec-23-09  cannedpawn: paulalbert is correct. distantly related.
Dec-24-11  AVRO38: <The game I lost against Alekhine proved an instructive lesson through a remark which Emanuel Lasker made and which I have kept in mind throughout my chess career. When I resigned and got up from my chair I noticed Emanuel Lasker, who had been watching, standing in back of me...>

Does anybody know what round this game was played in? The reason I ask is because Emanuel Lasker was playing a World Championship match with Tarrasch in Dusseldorf at the time of this tournament. It would be pretty interesting if he was kibitzing a game between Alekhine and his cousin during the WC match.

Were the two events held at the same venue?

Dec-24-11  King Death: <AVRO38: Does anybody know what round this game was played in?...>

In <Calli>'s collection, he states that the game was played in round 10 of Hauptturnier A (at the very end of the page).

< The reason I ask is because Emanuel Lasker was playing a World Championship match with Tarrasch in Dusseldorf at the time of this tournament...Were the two events held at the same venue?>

I don't know anything about that one way or another.

Dec-24-11  AVRO38: <<King Death>In <Calli>'s collection, he states that the game was played in round 10 of Hauptturnier A (at the very end of the page).>

Wrong again! In Calli's collection it says Alekhine's game with Gajdos was played in round 10 not his game with Ed. Lasker.

Dec-24-11  King Death: The games are all listed under round 10. Excuse me for living, great peabrain!
Dec-24-11  AVRO38: <King Death:The games are all listed under round 10>

So you just naturally assumed Alekhine played multiple games in one round. Pretty smart!!

Dec-24-11  King Death: Here's an assumption (with a lot of emphasis on your being an ass): you're an idiot troll.
Dec-24-11
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  Penguincw: The pressure keeps on amounting on white.
Sep-02-12  Tullius: This game was played in the 11th round on August 14. Source: Jan Kalendovsky, Vlastimil Fiala :
Complete Games of Alekhine, Vol.1: 1892-1921, p.44
Sep-02-12
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Tullius> yes, the admins have indeed corrected the game round to <11>, which is accurate, as you say.

Donaldson and Minev give the same information, which they cite from "The Unknown Alekhine," p.34-37.

Sep-02-12
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  Calli: You will find all of Alekhine's surviving games from the Hauptturnier A in Game Collection: Düsseldorf 1908 - DSB Kongress XVI Go to the bottom of the collection.
Sep-03-12
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Calli> that's a fabulous playlist, thanks for posting it. Do you think it's possible that any of the missing <Alekhine> games might still come to light?
Sep-03-12
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  PhilFeeley: <Jessica!> I've been wondering where you've been. Have you looked at any of the Olympiad games yet?
Sep-03-12
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  jessicafischerqueen: Hello <Phil>! I'll answer you at my forum since I don't want to put off topic stuff on a games page. Come to my forum.
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