| Dec-01-05 | | pawntificator: Why doesn't anybody play 4. Bb5 in this line? I can't find any games in the database, and there are only about 15 games on chessbase with 4. Bb5, most of them black wins, but some for white and a few draws, but the quality of the games is less than perfect. I can't find any definitive reason that the move isn't good. |
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Dec-01-05
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Good question, Pawntificator! I have no idea why anyone would shun a Nimzo-Indian with colors reversed and an extra tempo. The game itself is quite a fascinating brawl, and it's a pity these two fighters didn't have a long rivalry. Fine played the opening much too passively for my taste, but Alekhine let him back into the game by castling on the wrong side of the board. 11...0-0 and a Minority Attack should be better for Black. |
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| Dec-01-05 | | mynameisrandy: Why not 47...Ne6+? |
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| Dec-02-05 | | lunacyfrog: ....because qd6 check gives up the rooks. |
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| Jul-26-06 | | Maynard5: This appears to be a duplicate of the previous game. Still, a fascinating tactical fight toward the end, and well worth replaying, even if it ends in a draw. |
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Aug-28-06
 | | Phony Benoni: 47...Ne6+ would have been fun, though, after 48.Qd6+ Rxd6+ 49.cxd6+, with four checks in a row! |
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Aug-30-06
| | Phony Benoni: The difference between the two games seems to lie in moves 8 and 9: #13168 8.0-0 Qc7 9.h3 Bh5
#13169 8.h3 Bh5 9.0-0 Qc7
The position seems to give no clue, though I think I prefer the 8.h3 order. My sources are split: Reinfeld in his tournament book has #13168, Olimpbase and Khalifman's Alekhine collection give the #13169 order. I used to own the Fine collection of his best games (alternatively titled "A passion for chess" and "Lessons from my games"), and seem to recall that he included this game. Could anyone check that, and see which move order he uses? I would hope that would be somewhat authoritative. |
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| Aug-30-06 | | Calli: <(alternatively titled "A passion for chess" and "Lessons from my games")> You mean McKay Tartan paperback 26? :-) I hadn't seen it in years, but discovered that I still had it. This game, alas, is not in there. You might be remembering Alekhine vs Fine, 1936 ,"The Best Game I Ever Lost" |
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| Aug-30-06 | | Albertan: Chessbase Reference Database 2003 gives the move order found in game game #13168. |
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| Aug-30-06 | | Calli: Skinner & Verhoeven in their Alekhine book give 8.0-0 Qc7 9.h3 Bh5. They cite Wiadomsci Szachowe, 1835, n3a, p42 as the source. We all have that one, no? Aidan Woodger's Rueben Fine collection agrees and he cites Kashdan in Chess Review 1935, p254-255. Therefore, I believe #13168. |
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Aug-31-06
| | Phony Benoni: <Calli> Good work; thank you! Nothing like going back to the contemporary sources. <Albertan> Thanks for the confirmation. I don't always trust contemporary databases, but this one seems to be correct. |
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| Aug-31-06 | | euripides: Is this a <phony benoni> ? |
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| Aug-31-06 | | Calli: Guess I will submit the dup corection. Of course I meant 1935 in Wiadomsci Szachowe. Its my favorite Polish publication. ;-> <Phony Benoni> On second thought Fine also gives Alekhine vs Fine, 1932 in the book as an early confidence builder for him. That's probably the draw you had in mind. |
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| Aug-31-06 | | Calli: Misspelled that. It should be Wiadomości Szachowe. "Chess News", I think. |
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Sep-01-06
| | Phony Benoni: <Calli> Thanks again. I was thinking about submitting it, but was having trouble making that little thingie on top of the "s" in Wladomosci. I really appreciate your help and interest. It's very frustrating to me not to be able to do the research, since I used to have a fairly good chess collection (about 1500 titles with a lot of tournament books and game collections), and could check up on this stuff myself. Unfortunately, various life events led to its dismantling. |
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| Sep-01-06 | | Calli: Submitted, but who knows if CG will act. They rarely implement my corrections it seems. Special characters like Ö Ý ß ò ú Ĉ ą can be done with windows Charmap program (Click start, then Run, Open Charmap). Just copy and paste. |
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Sep-01-06
| | Phony Benoni: Thanks for the hint. Unfortunately, I can't seem get some of the characters to print. I can do å or ¾, but the lower case "s" with the acute accent comes out as "ú". Must be some incompatibility problem. Oh, well. I wasn't going to be doing much posting in Polish anyway. |
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| Sep-01-06 | | Calli: <Phony Benoni> It can still be a bit slippery because of incompatibilities with the page encoding. CG uses Western when they should have used UTF. Anyway if you have trouble try switching the Character set to Unicode in Charmap and see if that helps. |
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| Jul-27-08 | | whiteshark: I would have expected <13...hxg6> to open the h-file. Are there any drawbacks? After <13...Nxg6> I don't understand why Alekhine isn't prepairing for a ...e5 pawn push. |
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| Jul-27-08 | | whiteshark: Alekhine couldn't resist playing 31...Rxg2, but my silicon partner suggested <31...Qc8> instead. 
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