|Jan-31-05|| ||Leviathan: 26. Nb8!! a problem move and a fantastic save! |
|Sep-20-08|| ||neverSummeRed: 28. Nc6 would have finished black.
Many many variations, but all lead to mate or steal queen.
28. Rb1+ was a clear blunder
|Aug-17-11|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: Fascinating game; how many mistakes by both players were necessary to produce the position after 23.Kg2? A question for the silicon monsters: in that position Black already has the material advantage of Rook and 3 pawns; can he afford to play 23...Qxg1+; 24.Rxg1,Kxc7 with a Rook, Bishop and 4 pawns vs. a Queen?|
|Aug-17-11|| ||willrazen: 28. Nc6 doesn't finish black, but loses for white after 28...Kc3 since it will eventually escape, and white will lose even more material including his new queen|
|Aug-17-11|| ||Zkid: <neverSummeRed: 28. Nc6 would have finished black. |
Many many variations, but all lead to mate or steal queen.
28. Rb1+ was a clear blunder>
Sorry - that is completely wrong, as a little analysis will show. Nc6 leads to a disaster for white.
All three of black's replies to 28. Nc6+ at least draw, actually.
28...Kc5?! is a draw: 29. Nb8+
(29. Bg1+??, the only conceivable alternative, fails to 29...Kd6 30. Qxa8 [Bh2+ f4 just makes black's forced mate easier] Qg3+ 31. Kf1 Qf4+! followed by Qd2+ and mate comes.)
(29...Kd4!? 30. Rd1+ Ke3 31. Rd3+ is really unclear to me - I will leave that for an engine.)
30. Nc6+ with repetition.
28... Ka3 and Kc3 both look awful for White as there is, unfortunately for White, no mate or win of the queen anywhere in sight. Meanwhile White's king has a short future ahead.
28... Ka3 29. Ra1+ Kb2 30. Be5+ Nc3 leaves White in shambles; e.g. 31. Bxc3+ Kxc3 32. Qxa8 (what else?) Qe4+ 33. Kf1 Qh1+ 34. Ke2 Bh5+ and the f8 bishop joins in next move, when White can resign.
28... Kc3 is even simpler; White has nothing. 29. Be5+ Kd2 and 29. Nb8+ Bc5 both leave White wondering what on earth he's doing.
On a note, 30. Nc6+ is no better; 30...Kc3 leaves White the same problems as in the 28...Kc3 line.
In addition, Rb1+ is a draw, and I think the only draw. It makes sense, too, that White should force a draw in this position. After all, White is down a rook, Black has mate in one, and the king is slipping away. Try to back up blunder claims with a little analysis so we can see what you're thinking of....
|Aug-17-11|| ||al wazir: I think 24. Bh2+ would have won.
If 24...Kd7, then 25. Qh4 (threatening 26. Qc8+) Qf3 26. Qxf3 Nxf3 27. Nb8+ Kc8 28. Ba6#. (If instead 25...Qxh1+, then 26. Kxh1, and white's threats are still there.)
If 24...e5, then 25. Qh4 Kxc7 26. Bxe5+ Nd6/Kb7/Kc8 (26...Bd6 27. Qe7+) 27. Bxg7 27. Bxg7 27. Qe7+, etc.
If 24...Kc5, then 25. Qh4 Qf3 26. Qxf3 Nxf3 27. Nb8 Bd6 28. Na6+ Kd4 29. Rd1+, and the rest is left as an exercise for the student.
|Aug-17-11|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: <al wazir>, I think I know what you mean, but in your first line you meant to write, "threatening 26.Qd8+" correct? In your second, 26...Bxg7 is impossible, so did you mean 26...Bd6 (refuted by 27.Qe7+ as the B is pinned)? Also, in your second line, Black is up much material, so a reply to 26.Bxe5+,Qxe5 is appropriate.|
Nice work, though. If correct, then 23...Qxg1+ might prove mandatory, even if merely the best move in a lost position thanks to earlier errors.
|Aug-17-11|| ||al wazir: <An Englishman>: Yes, I meant Qd8+. If ...Rxd8 (forced), then cxd8=Q#.|
I deleted and reposted a couple of times. Maybe that's why I can't find the 26...Bxg7 you refer to. But if you think you found a typo, you probably did. I suffer from chess dyslexia, owing to my having learned algebraic notation after my mind had been permanently twisted by English (descriptive) notation.
|Aug-17-11|| ||kellmano: <al wazir> You third line doesn't make any sense as 25....Qf3 is illegal, as is capturing on f3 from h4on the next move. Did you mean 25. Qf3 Qc3 26. Qxc3 Nxc3.|
If so, at the end of the line the rook is just captured after it checks.
|Aug-17-11|| ||Jean Valjean: At 21. why didn't Braga that the queen with the pawn?|
|Aug-17-11|| ||Elrathia Kingi: <An Englishman> Looking in Shredder for iPad (not the strongest, I know), the position resulting from 23...Qxg1+; 24.Rxg1,Kxc7 has an evaluation of -2.70, a nice lead for black. It is the move suggested by the computer.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||goldfarbdj: <Jean Valjean>: Ng3+ regains the queen, and black gets a good position -- for instance, 21. bxc3 Ng3+ 22. Kf1 Nxe2 23. Kxe2, and now black has time to take the pawn on c7 because the knight on c6 is exposed: 23. ... Kxc7 24. hxg4 a6 regains the piece, when black is two pawns up with an easy win.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||abuzic: <21...Qxb2>,
Black could try 21...Ng3+ 22.Qxg3 (22.Kg2 Be4+ 23.Kh2 Qd2+ 24.Kxg3 Kxc7) Qxg3 23.Bh2 Qxh2 24.Rxh2 a6.
<23...f5>? (better looks 23...Qxg1+ 24.Rxg1 Kxc7)
white could play 24.Bh2+ and black goes to the defencive:
24...Kd7 25.Nb8+ Ke7 26.Rxa1 fxg4 27.hxg4 and the cpawn will promote to Q;
24...Kc5 25.Qf4! <(not 25.Qh4? Qf6!)> now this needs some analysis.
<24...Qf6>? still there was chance for 24...Qxg1+
|Aug-17-11|| ||Richard Taylor: Very komplicate game...|
|Aug-17-11|| ||profK: This is like chess from MARS!! ....where does Mr Timman actually come from ??|
|Aug-17-11|| ||howlwolf: I hate these quiet gm draws. Don't they know the chess public wants some excitement.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||kevin86: This one looks like an "immortal game" that run out of gas. lol|
|Aug-17-11|| ||kevin86: Mr. Timmom is from the Netherlands-his chess MAY be from elsewhere.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||perfidious: This game was annotated by Timman for Informator; maybe someone who has 31/32 can definitely state this, but I believe he mentioned that <Englishman>'s suggestion of 23....Qxg1+ 24.Rxg1 Kxc7 leads to a decisive advantage for Black.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||plang: You have quoted Timman's analysis correctly.|
|Aug-17-11|| ||DarthStapler: Another one of my puns selected!|