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Jun-02-11
 | | Phony Benoni: I saw the final threat as 30.Qh8+ Rxh8 31.Nf6#. Not a big deal. Charousek follows Pillsbury's advice here: "Set up your attacks so that when the fire's out, it isn't out!" Or words to that effect. The pun, I fear, is beyond me. Is it a song by Lady Gaga or something? |
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| Jun-02-11 | | Shams: <waustad: It is interesting seeing this without Diemer's usual 3.) Nc3.> Of course all modern players know to throw that move in, since 3.f3 e5 is peachy for black. |
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| Jun-02-11 | | sevenseaman: To go with our POTD this dumpling is equally hot. A good pair, albeit I get an impression of weak defensive play in this one. I faintly recall <Fischerqueen> saying somewhere the name is to be pronounced 'Kharoosek'. Important, as this guy ends up on the winning side most of the time. |
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| Jun-02-11 | | rilkefan: A gyoza is a sort of pot sticker - i.e., a dumpling - in Japanese cuisine, in Northern California at least. Not seeing the humor though. |
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| Jun-02-11 | | Infohunter: I must admit I don't get this pun either. "Gyõzõ" is the Hungarian version of the name "Victor", so that doesn't wash. Pronouncing the digraph "gy" as in that language (roughly like the palatalized "d" in "duty") also yields no result that makes sense to me. How about it, <cg>? Care to enlighten us? |
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Jun-02-11
| | Phony Benoni: Looks like <rilkefan> has got the source right: http://www.justhungry.com/2004/08/i... So it's just based on Black's first name, unless you say his position resembled one of these tasty treats. |
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| Jun-02-11 | | Infohunter: My thanks go to <rilkefan> and to <Phony Benoni>. That was really bothering my curiosity. Guess I just didn't allow myself to think outside the Hungarian box. |
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| Jun-02-11 | | Dr. J: This is an extraordinary attack. Charousek gives up a whole rook to tie Black up, then quietly advances the h-pawn. If 20...fxe5 21 Qg5+ Kh8 22 Rf6 Be4 23 Rh6+ Bh7 24 Qh5 leading to mate, e.g. 24...Kg7 25 Rxh7+ Kf6 26 Qh4+ and mate in 2 more moves. But what happens in the game continuation after 26... Kh7 instead of 26...Kf8? |
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| Jun-02-11 | | ilfratello: What would white play after 28...Ke8? |
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| Jun-02-11 | | Albertan: <Jun-02-11 ilfratello: What would white> <play after 28...Ke8?> After 28...Kf8 white could continue with a variation like this involving a temporary exchange sacrifice to gain a decisive material advantage: 28... Ke8 29. Nxd5 exd5 30. Re1+ Ne6
31. Rxe6+ fxe6 32. Qxe6+ Re7 33. Qg8+ Kd7 34. Qxd5+ Ke8 35. Qg8+ Kd7 36. Qxa8 |
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Jun-02-11
 | | scormus: A pleasure to play through this adventurous attacking game by W, even though with best defense there is no direct win. <Dr. J> Yes, 28 ... Ke8 would be better. On general principles the fleeing K should seek as much space to run as possible. But W gets an advantage with Nxd5 exd5 30 Re1+ Ne6 31 Rxe6+ fxe6 32 Qxe6 Re7 33 Qg8+ Kd7 34 Qd5+ then back to g8 to pick up the BRa8. I couldnt find a neat win though. I then tried it on Rybka who confirmed this very natural continuation gives adv to W, but she found a better line with the much less obvious continuation with 30 Nf4! only after quite a lot of thinking - a tough one to find. If B had made that choice it would have been a good weekend puzzle. |
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Jun-02-11
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <sevenseaman: I faintly recall <Fischerqueen> saying somewhere the name is to be pronounced 'Kharoosek'. Important, as this guy ends up on the winning side most of the time.> <sevenseaman> here is an audio/visual file with the correct pronunciation of <Rezső Charousek> by our own <Annie K>, who is a native Hungarian speaker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s3S...
And here is a video documentary on the life and games of <Charousek>: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=P... |
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| Jun-02-11 | | Garech: Nice game; one of my personal favourite gambits to play - and one of the highest scoring in this database. After 3.f3 white has the annoying ...e5! No I prefer 3.Nc3, but it's a matter of taste. Cheers, Garech |
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| Jun-02-11 | | psmith: On the pun: Gyozo is a pot sticker/dumpling -- that I knew. I then assumed that Gyozo was "dumped" in this game. A dumpling is something that has been dumped. |
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| Jun-02-11 | | Sho: Gyozo is a Japanese food item, chopped cabbage wrapped in an egg roll skin/dough. They are about the same size as ravioli. They are dipped in a soy sauce, rice vinegar, and mustard sauce. One person can eat about a dozen at a time (and eating too many is easy). Pronounced /gee - yo - zo/ with the emphases on "yo." |
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| Jun-02-11 | | sevenseaman: Many thanks <jessicafischerqueen>. So you caught me sniping! It was a pleasure watching these videos showing beautiful Hungary. Aah, those majestic monuments from a time gone by! Feel inspired for a look-see. I like Charousek as well as Maroczy. These Hungarian masters are silken. |
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| Jun-02-11 | | Dr. J: <scormus> Actually, that answers <ilfratello>'s question. I asked about 26...Kh7. Also, could you explain your 30 Nf4 please? |
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| Jun-02-11 | | kevin86: White ends with a cute threat of sacrificing the queen and replacing it at f6 with the knight. The two horse parlay executes the mate. |
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| Jun-02-11 | | mountm: <Dr. J> 27.Rf4 puts Black in a bind, forcing loss of material very quickly. Possible lines: 27...Qxe7 28. Qxe7
27...Bf3 28.h6 Rg6 29.Nxg6 fxg6
27...Qxf4 28.Qxf4 |
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| Jun-02-11 | | hugogomes: Am I the only one to see the obvious 15. Qg4+ and then Qh4! |
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| Jun-02-11 | | Xeroxx: Is this real life? |
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| Jun-02-11 | | rossvassilev: <hugogomes: Am I the only one to see the obvious 15. Qg4+ and then Qh4!> You mean 16.Qg4+ Kh8 17.Qh4 with the threat of mate 18.Qxh7# but then black only has to play 17...f5. |
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| Jun-02-11 | | Hello Kitty: The dumpling is actually "gyoza", not "gyozo" like the player's name. And the pronunciation is "gyo-za" where "gyo" is one syllable with a long (duration) o (or "gyo-o-za"), not "gi-yo-za". Sorry for OT. |
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| Jun-02-11 | | WhiteRook48: lame pun |
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Jun-04-11
| | scormus: <Dr J> Youre right, my mistake. I got the posts crossed over in my mind. <30 Nf4> Tough find, even for Rybka who took 20 mins even to decide it was better than 30 Re1+ Best play given as
29.Nxd5 exd5 30.Nf4 Ne6 31.Nxe6 Qe7 32.Nc7+ Qxc7 33.Qg5 Qc6 34.Qg8+ Ke7 35.Qxh7 Qg6 36.Qxg6 fxg6 37.dxc5 Rh8 38.Rf4 Rxh6 39.Rb4 b6 40.cxb6 axb6 41.Rxb6 Rh8 42.Kf2 g5 43.Ke3 Ra8 44.a3 evals at +2.94, compared with 30. Re1+ at +1.65. Seems its routing the N to c7 that makes it. This was an amazing game |
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