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Apr-05-02
 | | Sneaky: 21. Rf1!!
Now that's a SNEAKY move! |
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Apr-05-02 | | knight: It was way to dangerous for black to snatch the e-pawn. |
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Jul-06-02 | | morphynoman: Sneaky, you mean 16. Rf1!!? |
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Jul-06-02
 | | Sneaky: hmmm what the heck DID I mean... 16. Rf1 is not that sneaky.... Ahhhh I remember now. The sneaky move is 23. Rfe1! Sneaky of course because it threatens Qxe7. |
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Nov-21-02 | | OttawaChessFan: Move 21 would make a great chess puzzle... White to move and deliver mate in 8! Probably take us half our lifetime.... I wonder why Schiffers played dxc3, he must of know he was screwed when Chigorin invested the rook into the combo. |
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Jan-10-03 | | mdorothy: I think Schiffers could have saved a chance at the game, for the big price of his d-pawn. My reasoning is that he is ahead the exchange (down a pawn if he loses his d-pawn) but still mathematically materially winning. I believe that Schiffers walked into mate when he played dxc3. I think the position was defendable, the attack could have been thwarted. I cannot prove that at this point, but I am going to throw out 23...Rf7 as a possible alternative, planning for Qf8, which allows the king room to breath, and helps everything stay defended. If white tries to continue the attack, he may even hinder his grip on the d-pawn. |
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Jan-10-03
 | | Honza Cervenka: Mdorothy, what do you want to play after 23...Rf7 24.Bc4? If it is 24...Qf8, then what about 25.Nd7? |
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Jan-10-03 | | magerk: simply beatiful. |
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Jan-11-03 | | pawntificator: : Very beautiful.
However, there must be some way to save black in there somewhere. If not 23...Rf7 how about 23...Qg8 no...that fails to Qe5 dang it.
Ok, 23...Nf5, then what is what to do to keep the attack? |
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Jan-11-03 | | ughaibu: How about Qd7 in reply? |
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Jan-11-03 | | pawntificator: ok, 23...Nf5 24. Qd7+ Rf7 25 Bc4 Qg8 26 Ne6+ Kh8 and then what? 27 Qxc6? Boy this position is complicated |
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Jan-11-03 | | ughaibu: If you do Rf7 I was planning Qe8 then I'm a piece up. |
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Jan-11-03 | | pawntificator: dang! well, there must be a way to save the game, maybe it's just earlier on. |
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Jan-11-03 | | ughaibu: You could offer a draw somewhere around moves 1 or 2. |
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Jan-12-03 | | pawntificator: very funny! Your right though, by move 23 it is way too late. |
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Sep-08-04 | | wall: 20...Qh8 doesn't look right. Maybe 20...Qg7 and if 21.Rxe6 fxe6 22.Qxe6+, then 22...Kh8 protects the King. Instead of 22...Kg7, perhaps 22...Rf7 and if 23.Bc4 Qg7. Perhaps 23...Nd5 is better instead of 23...dxc3 which leads to mate. After 25.Rxe7+ Rf7 leads to mate as well as 25...Kg8 26.Bc4+ Rf7 27.Re8+ Kg7 28.Ne6 mate. |
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Jan-09-08 | | Amarande: Hmm ...
I could have sworn I've seen the ending quoted instead as 25 ... K-Kt1 26 B-B4ch, R-B2 27 R-K8ch, K-Kt2; 28 Kt-K6 mate. (The source did use descriptive notation, this is the same as the final variation in <wall>'s post above. I believe it was 500 Master Games of Chess; however, I have mislaid my copy, can someone else with the book double check this?) |
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Jan-10-08 | | akiba82: <Amarande> You are correct, the game appears on p158-9 of the Tartakower book. |
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Jan-10-08 | | Amarande: Can we get confirmation on which variation was actually played? |
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May-20-10 | | Dravus: Horowitz's treasury book has the game ending around White's 25th move by resignation (with the reader to figure out the variations). |
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Dec-01-14 | | Knight13: Nobody's commented on 14. g4. What's Black's reply to that move? 14... d6 (g5 was threatened) 15. Bd3 Kd7 doesn't look good for Black, but it might hold. |
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May-31-16
 | | Phony Benoni: Just goes to show you what happens when the Man of the House tries to keep his Lady hidden under wraps in a corner. |
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May-31-16 | | RookFile: You don't play ...Qg6 and ...Qxe4 against an attacking genius like Chigorin. Black needed to compete in the area of tempi, not try to win a measly pawn. |
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May-31-16 | | kevin86: A nice finish with a little Arabian mate. |
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May-31-16 | | The Kings Domain: Sterling combinative play by the granddaddy of Russian Chess. |
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