| Feb-03-04 | | lordhazol: First 0-0 than changing rooks ,Ba5 - c2 - Bb5 there is no serious solution for blacks next queen. |
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| Feb-03-04 | | lordhazol: Tactical players as Miles ect.has no winning point vs Kasparov.But also strong positional players like Anand,Dreev,Kramnik,Karpov has winning changes. |
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| Jun-18-04 | | clocked: what do you mean 0-0? That is not legal... |
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| Jun-18-04 | | tomh72000: Correct, black's rook moved at move 16 and then back to h8 next move, so castling is illegal. |
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| Mar-14-05 | | spirovskiyev: It seems like great players like Kasparov and Fischer have troubles in playing against the French... |
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| Mar-14-05 | | lopium: Completly false. Kasparov has 5 defeats with the French. And maybe 30 victories... I didn't count the victories. Maybe that Fischer is in the same way. I don't know. |
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| Mar-14-05 | | Lipsome: It's fairly well known that Fisher didn't like to play against the french, this is why Tal in his annotations to the game in his book gives 1...e6! Fischer vs Tal, 1960 |
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| Mar-15-05 | | spirovskiyev: Well. . .lopium I appreciate your statistics. But could you tell me in what games did Kasparov win against the French (the 30 victories) I would be happy to look forward into these games. . . |
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| Mar-15-05 | | Lipsome: one off the top of my head is Kasparov-Bareev Sarajevo 2000 1-0 |
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| Mar-15-05 | | lopium: With all the due respect, spirovskiyev, my "statistics" are on this site! Just type Kasparov, and "French" as oppening. You will see why i meant Kasparov had a success against the French. |
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| Mar-16-05 | | spirovskiyev: Great. . .lopium I will check 'em out.
Thanks. |
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| Aug-08-07 | | aroyni: Why is the result 0-1?
Kasparov is at least equal in my opinion.
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| Aug-08-07 | | percyblakeney: <Why is the result 0-1?> Kasparov probably lost on time, this was a blitz game. |
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| Jun-13-08 | | Sergey Sorokhtin: Realy Dreev made move 0-0,impossable move, illegal, 16...R:h5 was plaed erly. computerbase dont anderstending
middle of this game)))))
Game was played many moves after ...30...0-0  computer value -4.80 |
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| Jun-17-08 | | Chessdreamer: The concluding moves are according to NewInChess Yearbook 33: 30...0-0!! 31.Rb7 c2 32.Qc1 Qd3 33.Ne1 Qd4 34.Kg3 Qc3 35.Nf3 Qd3 36.h6 Qd1 37.Qa3 c1=Q 38.Qxc1 Qxc1 0-1.- 30...0-0 is absolutely illegal move! :-) |
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| Jun-17-08 | | mezzieh: A 30...0-0 is illegal I suggest immediate 30...c2 and White must either retreat passively 31. Qc1 or play suicidal 31. Rxd8+ Kxd8 32. Qb8+ Ke7 33. Qxh8 (or 33. Qb7+ Bd7 and all checks are in vain) 33...c1Q and, as Black can play Be8 to protect f7 it's all over. However, it's all very close to perpetual: 31. Rxd8+ Kxd8 32. Qb6+ Kc8 33. Bxe6+ fe6 34. Oxe6+ Bd7 and only the Queen covering a6 is difference between win and draw. And Black might have added some brilliancy points to his game in line below: 30...c2 31. Rxd8+ Ke7??? 32. Qb7+ (of course 32. Rxh8 Qb3 is catastrophic) 32...Bd7 33. Qxd7#
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Oops, being brilliant is not far from being stupid... |
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| Aug-05-09 | | Brown: Has Garry lost 5 games in any other opening defense of 1.e4? |
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| Aug-06-09 | | percyblakeney: <I suggest immediate 30...c2> Then Shredder suggests 31. Qb6 with mate in six... The illegal 30. ... 0-0 is the only winning move in the position and a brilliant find by Dreev :-) |
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| Oct-10-09 | | whiteshark: <blitz> Yes, they played 17 games on one day in the final group. Kasparov who shared 1-2 place with <Fritz 3> and won the final match with 4:1 against the computer. Price money for him: USD 20,000
the canister got USD 10,000 |
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| Feb-11-12 | | ColdSong: So a tremendously strong player like Kasparov was did not see that 30...0-0 was impossible? Hilarious. |
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Dec-15-12
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| Aug-24-15 | | BeerBrand: I think I know why Kasparov lost this game. Kasparov is an alien using an alien tech chess engine, and the alien chess engine crashed after black played 30... 0-0 |
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| Jan-15-17 | | clement41: 6...Qb6 7 Be3 Nc6 transposes to what I believe to be a more common line, the one going 6...Nc6 leaving white time to play 7 Be3 without worrying about a hanging b2 pawn then 7...Nc6 transposes, 8 Na4 Qa5+ 9 c3 etc. (interesting is 9...cd instead of the game line: 10 b4! with sac on b4 to monitor, though).
In short, the game line puts more pressure on white due to the need for white to assess 7...Qxb2. Two excellent pawn levers in my opinion by Black: 12...a5 and 15...h5, both attacking white's pawn chain at the right point, and hereby activating rooks. Despite the two players' undeniable strength, I can easily imagine that the nervous tension and tiredness resulting from the game made them both forget the illegalness of 30...0-0??? (or did Dreev notice it after playing it and kept silent?..).
In the same spirit, sometimes on the other hand players forget that castling long with an enemy bishop controlling the c1 (resp. c8) square is possible. A famous instance (where white did use his long-castling right)occurred in the spectacular queen-sac game: 16 0-0-0 in J Vetemaa vs Shabalov, 1986 |
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