Bobby Fischer vs Joseph Platz (1964) The Platz thickens!

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Bobby Fischer vs Joseph Platz
"The Platz thickens!" (game of the day Feb-25-2023)
Simul, 55b (1964) (exhibition), Hartford, CT USA, Mar-03
French Defense: Winawer. Retreat Variation Armenian Line (C18) · 0-1

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Feb-22-03		drukenknight: More FIscher/Winawer. the a4 advance here seems a bit optimistic. Usually a4 sets up the Bb5+ but here the K has already moved. The backwards move Ba5 was honed by Botwinnik vs Tal, then Tal also used that against Fischer, its a tricky move. 8...Qxa5 9 Qxd4 Nc6 might be interesting way to play.

Apr-25-04		iron maiden: Is this a duplicate game of Fischer vs J Platz, 1964?

Apr-25-04		dafish298: this looks drawish

Apr-26-04		Honza Cervenka: <this looks drawish> I don't think so. After 38.f4 Rd5 39.Bd2 a4 40.Ra1 Rd4 white has no reasonable move. 41.Rc1 a3 42.Ra1 a2 43.Bc1 Rd1+ 44.Kf2 Kd5 etc. or 41.Bc1 Rd1+ 42.Ke2 Kd5 43.Ke3 Kc4 44.Ke2 Kc3 is hopeless.

Oct-20-09		WhiteRook48: 38 Kd2 Rxe5 39 Bd4

Oct-20-09		AnalyzeThis: Platz was a very strong player. He was a student of Lasker, and Connecticut state champion.

Oct-21-09		ughaibu: Which Lasker and what subject?

Oct-21-09		TheFocus: Platz was a student of Emanuel Lasker. Subject: CHESS!! In 1978, he wrote Chess Memoirs: The Chess Career of a Physician and Lasker Pupil.

Oct-22-09		ughaibu: Really? What are the details? As far I know, Lasker only taught bridge and mathematics.

Oct-22-09		AnalyzeThis: I knew a master, who knew Platz. That's where I got my info, but it's all I know.

Oct-22-09		Pawn and Two: The game scores for five, from a series of six games (all drawn), between Lasker & Platz 1939-40, appear in the book, "Emanuel Lasker - Games 1904-1940" by Khalifman.

Apr-07-10		grasser: Dr. Platz was a very nice man. He gave me a few lessons in the late 70's early 80's.

Feb-12-11		tomlittle: I studied with Dr. Platz around 1980, as did some other chess friends I know. Platz's "Chess Memoirs" had more details on this game against Fischer, that Bobby quit in a huff! I don't know what happened to my copy of the Platz book.

Nov-29-14		TheFocus: From a simul in Hartford, Connecticutt on March 3, 1964. Fischer scored +49=2-5.

Feb-25-23		goodevans: <tomlittle ... Bobby quit in a huff!> If that's true, it's completely in line with his public perception. He was totally winning this. He just took the wrong N on move 21. That would have irked him no end. After that it was anyone's game. 55 boards is a lot so having got over the initial hurdle it's not so surprising a player as strong as Platz could take advantage of the let off.

Feb-25-23		HeMateMe: "Watson, the Bob's afoot!"

Feb-25-23		Atking: A typical lost on simultanous performance. White is obviously clearly better - probably winning - around move 20 - missed a tactical point, then another... and got a lost position

Feb-25-23		HeMateMe: I think I read somewhere that Lasker also wrote a few monographs on checkers and backgammon. Are those floating around on the internet?

Feb-25-23		MissScarlett: One monograph should be enough.

Feb-25-23		Teyss: <goodevans: He was totally winning this. He just took the wrong N on move 21.> Indeed. After 21.Bxb4 Nxb4 22.Bxd7+ Kxd7 23.Rxd4+ Nd5 (forced) 24.Rb1 protecting b7, White has an extra Pawn, a dominant position and useful moves like Rc4 or Ng5 whilst Black is constrained (+8.1 at 31 ply, didn't think it would be that much). click for larger view

Feb-25-23		SChesshevsky: <...Bobby quit in a huff!> It's tough to know exactly what this means. Fischer certainly could've stormed off due to the loss of a win position. But could also be that to Dr. Platz, a guy who apparently studied with Lasker, a hearty hand shake and verbal congratulations would be called for. And Fischer just gave him one of those no eye contact, limp hand extended resignations and moved on. Could also be that Fischer was tired from apparently playing a simul the night before and felt Dr. Platz was dawdling at the board. Not out of the question for a near 60 year old in a complicated, unbalanced Winawer. Or Fischer might've been irked because he felt hoodwinked as Dr. Platz might've been mis seated. Apparently Fischer requested that the players be sequentially seated as to playing strength, per another simul game post. Guessing so he could adjust the tightness of his play. Or all of the above. Tough to know exactly what "huff" was and the circumstances. But anything's possible with Fischer's temperament.

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