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Apr-22-02 | | refutor: 12.g3?! do any theoretical people have an opinion on this? as an amateur theoretician, i think the "normal" 12.d3/12.d4 is better. was fischer just playing it to get out of theory? |
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Oct-06-02 | | drukenknight: My bio. says indeed "yes" he was playing to get out of book. The open fianchetto formation looks like an affectation, I guess it. Has anyone tried the R "sack" at this pt? I.e. 12 a4 Bd6 13 Rxd5 dxg5 14 Bxg5 |
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Oct-06-02
 | | Honza Cervenka: 12.g3 was Fischer's invention in Marshall. He played that with O'Kelly in Havana 1965 (see Fischer vs O'Kelly de Galway, 1965 ) Also other GMs used this move, especially Matanovic, Byrne or Timman. |
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Oct-06-02 | | drukenknight: Our data base apparently only has 7 games w/ 12 g3;and none w/ matanovic byrne, or timman |
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Oct-07-02
 | | Honza Cervenka: Timman played that with Huebner in Tilburg 1985 (see Timman vs Huebner, 1985 ), Matanovic used it against Geller in the interzonal tournament 1967 (see A Matanovic vs Geller, 1967 ) and Ostojic in Yugoslav championship in Novi Travnik 1969 (I did not find it in this database). Byrne played that with Hebden in New York 1983 (The game is not in the database too; according to chessbase there was played 12.Re1 Bd6 13.g3 but it is only little detail as 12.g3 Bd6 13.Re1 leads to the same position. Suetin quotes this game in variatin 12.g3 in his book about RL.) |
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Oct-07-02
 | | Honza Cervenka: Byrne's game with Hebden:
[Event "New York Kavkasian"]
[Site "New York"]
[Date "1983.09.??"]
[Round "0"]
[White "Byrne,Robert E"]
[Black "Hebden,Mark"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C89"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. 0-0 Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 0-0 8. c3 d5
9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 c6 12. Re1 Bd6 13. g3 Qd7 14. d3 Qf5 15. Nd2 Qg6 16. Ne4 Bc7
17. Qf3 Bg4 18. Qg2 Rad8 19. Bg5 f6 20. Be3 f5 21. f4 Kh8 22. Nf2 Bh5 23. Bd4 Rfe8 24. Be5 Bxe5
25. fxe5 Qh6 26. d4 Ne3 27. Qh3 c5 28. Nd3 g5 29. Bf7 cxd4 30. Qxh5 Qc6 31. Rxe3 1-0 |
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Oct-07-02
 | | Honza Cervenka: Matanovic's game with Ostojic:
[Event "JUG-ch 24th"]
[Site "Novi Travnik"]
[Date "1969.??.??"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Matanovic,Aleksandar"]
[Black "Ostojic,Predrag"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C89"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. 0-0 Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 0-0 8. c3 d5
9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 c6 12. g3 Bf6 13. Re1 c5 14. d4 cxd4 15. cxd4 Bb7 16. Nc3 Nxc3
17. bxc3 b4 18. Bb2 bxc3 19. Bxc3 Qd7 20. Rc1 Rac8 21. Qd3 Rc5 22. d5 Rfc8 23. Bd2 Rxc1 24. Rxc1 Rxc1+
25. Bxc1 h5 26. h4 g6 27. Qe4 Qc7 28. Qe8+ Kg7 29. Ba3 Qd8 30. Bf8+ Kg8 31. Qxd8 Bxd8 32. Bh6 Bc7
33. Bg5 Kf8 34. Kf1 Be5 35. Ke2 f6 36. Bh6+ Ke7 37. Kd3 Bd6 38. Kc4 Bc8 39. Bc2 f5 40. Bg5+ Ke8
41. Ba4+ Kf7 42. Bc6 Kg7 43. Bf4 1-0 |
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Oct-07-02 | | drukenknight: Honza has anyone tried 12 a4? could not find any in data base. My line above is mistyped; CORRECTED LINE: 12 a4 Bd6 13 Rxd5 (why lose a tempo when I can sack the rook?) ...cxd5 14 Bxd5 Rb8 But be careful, if 14...Qh4 15 Bxa8?? loses the game! |
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Oct-07-02
 | | Honza Cervenka: 14.Bxd5 in your line is not good for 14...Bxh2+ and 15...Qxd5. Better seems to be 14.axb5 Qh4 15.g3 Qe4 16.d3 Qf5. 12.a4 was played but I never saw that with continuation 12...Bd6 13.Rxd5!? |
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Oct-07-02 | | drukenknight: yes HOnza I see your pt. about 14 Bxd5; my mistake. 14.axb5 Qh4 15. Qf3 |
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Oct-07-02 | | drukenknight: It is also possible 12 a4 Bf6 although I believe 12..Bd6 is better for black. My mistake on 14 Bxd5 |
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Mar-30-04 | | iron maiden: By holding Fischer to a draw in this game, Spassky kept level with him on the scoreboard of the tournament, and in the next and final round he was able to pull ahead by beating Donner. |
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Mar-30-04 | | refutor: drukenknight...12.a4 is fascinating in the fact that it *almost* works, i can't help but think that white's lack of development will bite him in the @$$ eventually, but the rook sack is worth a one-time attempt in blitz ;) |
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Jul-28-04 | | chess4games: Draw seems like NOT draw in this game. |
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Jul-29-04
 | | Benzol: <chess4games> Why don't you think it's a draw? |
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Jul-29-04 | | chess4games: <Benzol> Beause it is a draw. |
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Jul-29-04 | | beer: <chess4games> Learn how to spell and stop being a smartalek and pest. |
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Sep-18-04 | | Knight13: <beer> You stop saying bad things to people. |
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Sep-18-04 | | Melvin04: <beer> You stop saying bad things to people. |
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Sep-18-04 | | chess4games: <beer> You stop saying bad things to me and other people. |
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Sep-18-04
 | | offramp: It's just <beer> talking. |
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Sep-19-04 | | Franz the Stampede: what about 12.Bxd5 so that the black has an isolated pawn on the d file? |
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Sep-21-04 | | Knight13: I think Spassky really wanted a draw here. If he dosen't, he would play 34... Bc6. |
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Sep-21-04
 | | beatgiant: <I think Spassky really wanted a draw here. If he dosen't, he would play 34... Bc6.> That would allow 35. ♖a6 , pinning and winning the bishop. |
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Dec-20-06 | | Tartalacreme: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. 0-0 Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 0-0 8. c3 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 c6 12. Re1 Bd6 13. g3 Qd7 14.d3/d4 Qh3 transposes to the main lines. |
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