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Jan-15-03 | | Sarimanok: I dont get it. Why did Kasparov moved Ra7 at the 31st move instead of Rxa4? 31...Rxa4 32. Bxf4, Bxf4 33. Ne6, Rg8 34. Rxf4, Rxg1+ 35. Kxg1, Ra1+ 36. Kg2, Qg6+ 37. Rg4, Qf6 38. Rg7+ Kh8 39. Rxb7, Nd2. While Ra7 would lead to 32. Bxf4, Bxf4 33. Ne6, Rg8 34. Rxg8, Ne5 35. Rf8, Qg6
36. R8xf4, Kh8 37. Rg3 a very decisive position by White. |
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Jan-15-03 | | Kenneth Sterling: Frankly, I would be more interested to know why he played 26…Bxf3+ |
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Jan-16-03 | | Ashley: Well, it is better than 26…Nh4 27. Ng5+ hxg5 28. Qxg4 Qxg4 29. Rxg4. |
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Jan-16-03 | | Kenneth Sterling: It is better than 26...Nh4, but I am waiting for someone to demonstrate why 26…Kh8 was not the correct move. |
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Jan-19-03 | | Sarimanok: 26...Kh8 is an excellent move. Possible continuation could be 27.Nc7 Rb6 28.Ne6 Bxe6 29.Rg6 Bg4 30.Qc2 Kh7 31.Nh4 Be5 (31.e5, Bf4!) Black equalizes even a pawn down. The game be far from over with this move. Thank you for pointing that out. :) |
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Jul-20-03 | | rudolfhess: Quoting Robert Byrne: "Instead of 26...Bxf3+, Kasparov could have tried 26...Kh8, but Kramnik could have gone for 27.h3!? Bh5 (27...Bxf3+ 28.Qxf3 Ne5 29.Qg2 Nxc4 30.Rf3 Rxa4 31.Bxf4, threatening 32.Bxh6!, is no better than the game continuation) 28.Ne5! Bxe2 29.Nxd7 Rd8 30.Rxg6 Rxd7 31.Bxf4 Bxc4 32.Nxd6, with a winning endgame." |
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Aug-13-03 | | ksadler: This game is annotated at http://www.chesscafe.com/text/yaz10... for those who are interested. |
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Aug-13-03 | | Benjamin Lau: <ksadler>
Wow, you gave us a ton of resources, thanks! |
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Aug-13-03 | | ksadler: <Ben Lau and chessgames.com> No prob, and sorry for spamming, but I figure if (long term) anyone looks at these games, a reference will be there with the detailed analysis of a very strong GM. |
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Aug-14-03 | | PVS: <sorry for spamming, but I figure if (long term) anyone looks at these games, a reference will be there with the detailed analysis of a very strong GM.> I think that it is an excellent idea, having the Recent Kibitzing page clogged up for a few hours is well worth it. |
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Aug-14-03 | | mkdir: Kramnik was one main reason for kasparov avoiding KID....kramnik beat the crap out of kasparovs KID on more than one occasion... |
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Aug-14-03 | | Benjamin Lau: <mkdir>
King's Indian, Kramnik v.s. Kasparov:
Kramnik: 3 wins
Kasparov: 5 wins
1 draw |
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Aug-14-03 | | mkdir: <Benjamin Lau>
Thats relatively high isn't it...i wonder how many sicilians kaspy lost in total against all the present top 10 players.One things for sure KID always gives a good game...Anyway thanks for the info. |
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Aug-14-03 | | Benjamin Lau: Your welcome, according to Kasparov himself, he didn't quit the KID because of Kramnik, but because the opening has become overanalyzed. Too many people know its theory. As a result, Kasparov has begun to play the Nimzo, QGA, Slav, etc more. However, at lower levels where no one is a theory god, the KID still takes many scalps. |
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Apr-19-04 | | acirce: Is Kasparov's pawn sacrifice in the opening playable or did Kramnik refute it with 21. Qe2 and 22. Nb5? |
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Jul-22-04 | | hickchess99: <acirce> kramnik felt that the sac was not sound and that he had a won position from that point. |
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Jul-23-04 | | Voxation: why not 18...g4? and also, i dont get how 31 Nc7 helped Kramnik win, can some please explain it to me. thanks |
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Jul-23-04
 | | Honza Cervenka: Yasser Seirawan wrote: <Garry didn't wait to see 32...Bxf4 33.Ne6 Rg8 34.Rxf4 Rxg1+ 35.Kxg1 Qg6+ 36.Rg4 with a winning game.> Well, it wins probably too but 32...Bxf4 33.Ne6 Rg8 34.Rxg8 Qxg8 35.Qf5+ Kh8 36.Qf6+ Kh7 37.Nf8+ or 34...Kxg8 35.Rxf4 Qe7 36.Qxh6 Ra8 37.Qg6+ Kh8 38.Rh4+ Qxh4 39.Qg7# seems to be a little bit better reason for resignation.:-) <Voxation> 18...g4 preserves a pawn for a while but it completely immobilizes a Bishop. White can continue 19.Nf3 f6 (preventing 20.Ng5; 19...gxf3 20.Qxh3 ) 20.Kh1 with intention 21.Ng1 and 22.Nxh3 or 20.Nh4 with intention Nf5. |
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Jul-26-04 | | acirce: <hickchess> Thank you, seems like that. |
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Jul-22-05 | | ryanpd: Analysis by Shredder 9 in PGN format:
[Event "Kosmos m 5'"]
[Site "Moscow"]
[Date "1998.11.27"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Vladimir Kramnik"]
[Black "Garry Kasparov"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E97"]
[WhiteElo "2780"]
[BlackElo "2815"]
[Annotator "Deep Shredder 9 (120s)"]
[PlyCount "83"]
[EventDate "1998.11.27"]
E97: ♔ing's Indian: Classical Main Line (6...e5 7 0-0 ♘c6): 8 ♗e3 and 8 d5
♘e7, not 9 ♘e1 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. d4 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7.
O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. b4 a5 10. Ba3 axb4 11. Bxb4 Nd7 12. a4 f5 13. Ng5 Nc5 14.
Bxc5 dxc5 last book move 15. Bf3 Ra6 16. a5 Kh8 (16... f4 17. Bg4 Nf5 18.
exf5 gxf5 19. Ne6 (19. Bxf5 $5 Bxf5 20. Nge4 Rh6 $17) 19... Bxe6 20. dxe6 fxg4
21. Qxg4 $14) 17. Ne6 Bxe6 18. dxe6 f4 (18... b6 19. axb6 Rxb6 20. Qxd8 Rxd8
21. Ra7 $16) 19. Qxd8 (19. Qb3 b6 20. Rfd1 Qb8 $18) 19... Rxd8 $16 20. Rfb1 Rb8
21. Nd5 Nxd5 (21... Rxe6 $4 Taking that pawn is naive 22. a6 Nc8 23. Bg4 Rxa6
24. Rxa6 $18) 22. cxd5 (22. exd5 $2 e4 Clearance to allow g7-a1 23. Bxe4 Bxa1
24. Rxa1 Kg7 $19) 22... Bf8 23. Be2 Ra7 24. a6 Bd6 (24... Rba8 25. axb7 Rxb7
26. Rxa8 Rxb1+ 27. Bf1 $16) 25. h4 (25. Ra2 Kg7 $18) 25... Kg7 (25... Rba8 26.
axb7 Rxa1 27. Bf1 $16) 26. Bc4 (26. Ra2 Kf8 $18) 26... b6 $2 (26... Rba8 $142
$5 $16) 27. Bb5 h6 28. Kf1 Rf8 29. Ke2 Rf6 30. Rb3 Kf8 (30... g5 31. hxg5 hxg5
32. g3 $18) 31. Rh3 Ke7 32. Kd3 Kf8 33. Kc4 Kg7 34. Bc6 Kf8 (34... Rf8 35. Bb7
$18) 35. Kb5 (35. g4 keeps an even firmer grip fxg3 36. Rxg3 h5 $18) 35...
Kg7 36. Bb7 Kf8 (36... Rf8 37. g4 $18) 37. Rg1 (37. g4
and White can already relax Ke7 38. g5 Rf8 $18) 37... Ke7 (37... Kg7 $18) 38.
g3 f3 39. Rc1 Kd8 40. Rc3 h5 (40... Ke7
a fruitless try to alter the course of the game 41. Rh1 $18) 41. Rh1 Ke7 42.
Rd1 (42. Rd1 Rf8 43. Rdd3 $18) (42. Re1 $5 seems even better Rf8 $18) 1-0 |
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Mar-01-06 | | alexandrovm: one of last kings indian played by Kasparov, here Kramnik defuses it calmly |
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May-25-06 | | Everett: Kasparov should study some of Smirin's games to defuse the bayonet attack. One idea is an earlier h5, around move 9. Kramnik vs Smirin, 2002 |
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Jan-06-07 | | seeminor: Im sure that around this time Kasparov realised Kramnik was the only player in the world with the mental strength to take his title. Ivanchuk was a talented but fragile player, Anand was shown to have psychological weakness in 1995, Shirov was destined to never get even 1 win against Gazza. But Vlad just never seemed to care about Kasparov's theatrical huffing and puffing, played his moves, and took his title. Its only because he started playing Kasparov at 16 thhat Kasparov has (only just) a plus score against him. |
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Apr-01-07
 | | plang: I'm not sure I believe Kasparov. He had had a lot of success with the Kngs Indian until Kramnik came along. I believe this is one of the last games that he used the defence. It came just a few months after his loss with the Kings Indian to Ivanchuk at Linares. The system with 10 Re1, developed by Ivan Sokolov, was having a lot of success at this time. One of the ideas was that the black knight at f4 was not as much of an inconvenience to white as previously thought. In fact, after 16 g3..Nh3 the 17 Bh3..Bh3 the bishop ends up misplaced at h3.
15 Ra3 is a clever multi-purpose move with one of the idea being to transfer the rook to the king side (either for offence or defence). The gambit with 15..g5!? never seems to get off the ground; in fact it is Kramnik who ultimately gets the kingside initiative. Kramnik recommended 15 Kh8 as an alternative. I love 25 Nf3. There is no way for Kasparov to take advantage of the pin. Still, it was not necessary for Kasparov to play 26..Bf3?; Kramnik again recommended 26..Kh8. 31 Nc7 is simple but pretty; taking advantage of blacks queen being tied to h5 to defend against the queen sacrifice on h6. |
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Aug-26-09 | | HAPERSAUD: Personally I think Kasparov had am uncompromising style that practically made the kid dead to him, I've played many games against candidate masters using 17 plus move variations in the bayonet and I've had the great fortune to talk to grandmaster federowicz and pitch a few of my ideas which he was impressed with. So maybe the kid isn't dead. All you need is a player with a different style that the opening suits |
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