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François André Philidor vs NN
Unknown (1790)
King's Gambit: Accepted. Cunningham Defense Bertin Gambit (C35)  ·  0-1

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Sep-05-04  Knight13: NN played well against Philidor here.
Sep-29-04  morphy234: I really think Philidor was with the black pieces.
Feb-04-05  Jaymthegenius: In truth, Philidor wasnt on the other end, it was me! I went back in time to defeat this guy! It is undocumented, but I defeated him for the title of best player in the world, but I had to travel back into the future, so Philidor became the best again.

Phildor was extremely awful, his pawnshied is destroyed, and 3...Be7 practically refutes the Kings gambit, as after ...Bh4+ 5.Kf8 white cant castle, and after g3 black has a clear win.

Feb-10-05
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  InspiredByMorphy: <Jayme> <3...Be7 practically refutes the Kings gambit> The cunningham gives white a positional advantage. It is a common misconception of amateurs that 5.Kf8 is bad because of the inability to castle. By the way, Id like to see you refute what Paul Morphy played. The three pawns gambit. Opening Explorer 78% won looks pretty good to me. Take a good look at the following game Morphy vs Bird, 1859 By the way the mighty Philidor himself played it successfully as well Philidor vs NN, 1790
Feb-10-05  MUG: Has ANY opening ever been 'practically refuted' as early as the 4th move?! Probably not!
Feb-10-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  tpstar: L Darling vs R Wood, 1983
Feb-10-05  euripides: 20 Bxh6 looks worth a punt.

On move 36, after three forcing checks, White finds he has put himself in Zugzwang. The Robespierre manoeuvre, perhaps.

Feb-10-05  vangogh228: Sneaky is absolutely right. b6 and the game is over. What a series of blunders!
Feb-11-05  MUG: Ha ha. Thanks for the link <tpstar>, I stand corrected!! Don't think that 'Uncommon Opening' will be making it into my opening repertoire anytime soon!!
Apr-02-06  lanceolsen: could white get some counterplay with 20. Bxh6 gxh6 21. Qxh6 ?
Apr-23-06  aazqua: This game is terrible! These people look like they are century's behind the times. LOL.
Jun-09-06  blingice: I've said this before about a different opening: this opening should be tried at the International Criminal Court. I swear, it's an absolute atrocity against chess, and not half as good as the Danish Gambit.
Aug-20-06  syracrophy: The variation of the KG chosen by Philidor wins a piece for three pawns, and in the ending, Black has a slight advantage. It's just to hard to fight against them in the ending. Another game lost with the same variation and with same pawns stuff Philidor vs NN, 1790
Jul-22-07  Rory O Rion: And then there's 21. 'Pawn' b-6!
Dec-31-08  WhiteRook48: So NN taught Philidor pawn play!?
Jan-24-09  WhiteRook48: why not 41. Be1?
Aug-06-09  ariel el luchador: 31)P6C A3A 32)PxP P4C 33)AxP A2C seguido de 34).....C3A y las blancas estan mejor pero las negras conservan ciertas chances,no está dicha la última palabra
Aug-06-09  ariel el luchador: 34)A7D debe ganar con el plan:C2D _C3C_C5A_C6T_C7A ,los 2 alfiles yelrey paran tranquilamente a los peones pasados negros , hay un poco de lucha pero el final está facilmente ganado para el blanco ,esta variante no desmerece el juego general del negro en la partida.
Aug-06-09  ariel el luchador: This game it´s not true this game is analizaded in the book writing by philidor, the another game of cunimhang variation and the game played in 1749 not are real,they are games invented by philidor it´s a pitty my english it´s very bad sorry ,EN ESPAÑOL:La partida de 1749 y las partidas perdidas por Filidor de la variante Cunnigham del gambito de rey no son reales son analisis de él aparecidos en su libro el analisis del juego de ajedrez, es una lastima porque son muy buenas partidas
Nov-12-12  The Last Straw: <ariel el luchador> I'll repeat that comment.

This game is not true. It is analysed in the book by François André Philidor. The other game with the Cunnngham Variation and the other game played in 1749 are not real. They're games composed by François André Philidor.

Sep-29-14  squlpt: 31. b6?
Sep-25-15  jnpope: Instructional game given by Philidor in <Analyse du jeu des Échecs>, 1750, pp110-111. Philidor does not identify either player.
May-10-16  Christoforus Polacco: Loosing move is 18.N:h2. White horse is out of the game from this moment. It should be 18.Ne5
Jul-09-16  juanhernandez: good game !!!
Apr-27-17
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  louispaulsen88888888: Way to go, NN!
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