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James Henry Turner vs Charles Henry Stanley
Stanley - Turner m (1850), Washington, D.C. USA, rd 2, Feb-11
King's Gambit: Accepted. Hanstein Gambit (C38)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Apr-14-06
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  kevin86: What a pawn chain by black!! b7-f3-h5. seven pawns!

A strange ending! White can go a knight for a pawn up by 56 ♘xe4+ ♔g1 57 ♘f2 The knight must remain to guard the h1 square and the king must remain near to defend the knight.

White can capture the pawn,but lose his knight and the game. So a draw is the result.

Dec-18-10
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  Phony Benoni: An interesting moment after 54...Kg4:


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Our score gives 55.Nf2+ Kxg3, drawn. Stanley presented it in his column in the <Albion> for March 2, 1850 (go through http://www.chessarch.com/excavation... to get there), and gave the continuation as 55.Kxe4 Kh3, drawn.

Both of these versions are indeed drawn positions. But what about 54.Ke2? For instance, 54...Kh3 55.Kf2 Kg4 (not 55...e3+?? 56.Kf3!) 56.Ke3 Kh3 57.g4 Kxg4 (57...Kg2 58.Nf2) 58.Kxe4, and White will be able to prevent the king from penetrating to g2. Does that win?

By the way, Stanley gives this as game 2 of the match, played in Washington, DC, and it's the only draw of the 17-game match.)

Dec-19-10
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  GrahamClayton: <Phony Benoni>But what about 54.Ke2? For instance, 54...Kh3 55.Kf2 Kg4 (not 55...e3+?? 56.Kf3!) 56.Ke3 Kh3 57.g4 Kxg4 (57...Kg2 58.Nf2) 58.Kxe4, and White will be able to prevent the king from penetrating to g2. Does that win?

<PhonyBenoni>,
58. ♔xe4 ♔h3 59. ♔f3 ♔h4 60. ♔g2 picking up the h-pawn.

Dec-19-10
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  Phony Benoni: <GrahamClayton> That's what I thought at first as well, but I checked a tablebase to be sure. And guess what? The position after <58.Kxe4>:


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is a draw! In order to win, White must use his king to capture the h-pawn. This allows Black's king to go the queenside and eliminate White's b-pawn. White can counter this by moving Nf2/Nd3/Nxb4/Nc2/b4, but he hasn't got the time.

Now, 58...Kh3? would be a losing move. The game could go 59.Kf3 Kh4 60.Nf2 Kg5 61.Kg2 Kf4 62.Nd3+ Ke4 63.Nxb4 Kd4 64.Nc2+ Kc3 65.b4, and wins.

Black draws with 58...Kh4, 58...Kh5, or 58...Kg5, keeping in touch with the transit square on g5 and gaining a tempo on the losing line. The result is that Black plays ...Kc3 with the White knight still on b4, and draws.

It surprised me, too.

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