| Nov-29-06 | | suenteus po 147: What's the finish here? Did Mecking lose on time, or is Petrosian's King in prime position to win the queenside? |
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Nov-29-06
 | | WannaBe: ...Nb4 or ...Kd4, I'd play ...Nb4. |
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| Nov-29-06 | | suenteus po 147: <WannaBe> Okay, so I play 87.Bb3 |
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| Dec-16-06 | | wharfrat: According to the tournament book, which is worth getting if you can find it, Petrosian played 86...Nc1 and then Mecking's flag fell. Petrosian's annotations give 87.a3, Ne2+; 88.Kg4, Ke4; 89.Bc6, Ke5; 90.Bb7, Nd4 followed by ...Nc2 and ...Ne3 as leading to the win of both White's pawns. |
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Dec-16-06
 | | plang: There has not been a grandmaster supertournament held in the US since this one 35 years ago. |
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Dec-16-06
 | | Phony Benoni: <plang> That's an interesting point, but I think we need to define "grandmaster supertournament". To my mind, this denotes a tournament consisting completely of strong grandmasters. In that sense, about the only tournaments in the US I can think of offhand that qualify would be the two Piatigorsky Cup tournaments (Los Angeles 1963 and Santa Monica 1966), probably New York 1924 (despite the presence of Edward Lasker), and possibly Dallas 1957 (not as well known, but a field of Gligoric, Reshevsky, Szabo, Larsen, Yanofsky, Olaffson, Najdorf and Evans is not to be taken lightly). Events such as New York 1889, Cambridge Springs 1904, and, for that matter, San Antonio 1972 are closer to "mixed" tournaments. All featured a large number of first-class players, but also a number of weaker ones. At San Antonio, for instance, you had several IMs, such as Donald Byrne, Kaplan, Campos-Lopez, and Saidy, as well as Kenneth Smith. I've undoubtedly missed some, but we're got enough historians here to take up the slack. |
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| Dec-18-06 | | wharfrat: I would agree that San Antonio 1972 was not a "supertournament" as we know them today, but it was one of the strongest round robins of 1972 (with Gligoric, Hort, Karpov, Keres, Larsen, Mecking, Petrosian, and Portisch). It's actually most interesting because it's the only major round robin held in the US that was funded by a corporation looking for some publicity in the US. I wouldn't put Dallas 1957 in the "supertournament" category because I think Evans and Yanofsky were too far down on the rating list. I would add New York 1927 to the tally of US "supertournaments," with Capablanca, Alekhine, Spielmann, Nimzowitsch, Marshall, and Vidmar. |
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Dec-18-06
| | Phony Benoni: <wharfrat> Yes, definitely New York 1927. |
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| Jul-30-07 | | patzerboy: OK, I'm guessing that Petrosian didn't go for 23...Rg3+, "winning" the Queen for Bishop and Rook because the White Bishop would become too powerful and the Black e-pawn would inevitably fall. I'm not sure I would have been able to resist the temptation... |
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| Aug-12-07 | | sanyas: 27.♖c1 ♖f5 28.♗e2 ♕e7 29.♗xf3 ♖xf3 30.c4 ♖xh3 31.♖c3 e3 wins. |
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| Feb-15-23 | | SChesshevsky: Seems a very instructive look at Petrosian's positional sense. Impressive was his improving his position from ok at 9...Nc6 to being better at 22...Bg4 with each move having meaning. Also, why he preferred the position at 28...Qf5, following the text from 23...Raf8 rather then go for the material plus 23...Rg3 24. hxg3 Bxe2 25. Ne6 Qe5 26. Rxe2 Rc8 27. Bh3. |
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Kibitzing
sac: 23...Raf8