| Aug-22-03 | | Brian Watson: This same game score appears in the database with players reversed -- which is correct? |
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| Aug-22-03 | | ughaibu: At a guess I'd say this one is probably correct, the Petrov doesn't strike me as a likely choice by Tal. |
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| Aug-22-03 | | ughaibu: I've just checked and found eight Petrovs with Tal as black, this loss and seven draws, all from late in his career this being the earliest. |
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| Feb-07-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: Tal gives up the queen for position and equality. But the position is what wins. |
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| Feb-08-04 | | Catfriend: In fact, two rooks are more than a queen |
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| Apr-20-05 | | Fischer of Men: Yet in the game Tal vs Simagin, 1956 he is on the opposite end of the ♕ vs. ♖ + ♖ endgame but still on the winning side. |
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| Apr-20-05 | | aw1988: <Catfriend> They're about equal, depending on the position. |
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| Apr-21-05 | | Karpova: rooks are stronger if connected because they can work together well while the queen becomes stronger if it's not like that.
two good examples:
Aron Nimzowitsch vs Jose Raul Capablanca New York 1927
Viswanathan Anand vs Kramnik Cap d'Adge rapid 2003 |
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| Apr-21-05 | | erimiro1: Sorry, the discussion about 2 Rooks vs. Queen is useless for this case, cause White can not prevent 39. c1=Q, because of mate. Also let me remind you Fischer who said about Q VS 2 R's: "A Queen is a queen!" (on his game vs. Keres in "My 60 memorable games") |
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| Apr-21-05 | | knightspot: So why did White exchange off all the minor pieces after the Big exchange? Did he not walk into a losing endgame? |
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| Apr-21-05 | | weirdoid: A philosophical riddle:
The moves in this game is identical with:
Tal vs Suetin, 1977
Conclusion: Mikhail Tal and Alexey Suetin must in fact have been the same individual. |
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| Apr-21-05 | | knightspot: well then that reinforces the question about why did white trade off all the pieces. As in "if I were him, I wouldn't have done that" but then, when Tal actually did assume Suetin's identity for the rematch, he went and did the same thing. |
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| Apr-21-05 | | Karpova: <erimiro1: Also let me remind you Fischer who said about Q VS 2 R's: "A Queen is a queen!"> this quotation is rich in content. what about the first game of the wc match kramnik-leko 2004? q didn't win against 2 r's though being a queen (according to fischer). |
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| Apr-21-05 | | knightspot: More to the point, what about the first game of Fischer Larsen in 1971 when Fischer defeated Larsen's queen with just the minor pieces? Of course as a an exercise in triviality, we cannot dispute the literal truth of the statement. |
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| Feb-25-06 | | waddayaplay: This version is correct. See tournament table at http://www.geocities.com/al2055urs/... |
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Apr-13-24
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click for larger view38. ... ?
if 39.♕e5+ f6+ 40.♕xf6+ ♖xf6 41.b6 c1/♕# |
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Kibitzing
sac: 23...Nxe5