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Nov-19-05 | | jahhaj: I only saw the inferior line 25...♘xf3 26.♖xf3 ♕e4 27.♕f1 ♖xf3 28.♕xf3 ♕xb1 29.♕xd5 but White's counterplay doesn't look that strong to me. His king is horribly exposed. |
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Nov-19-05 | | Averageguy: I got the same as many kibitzers, the combination ending with winning the Rb1. This looks pretty winning for Black to me, though. |
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Nov-19-05
 | | al wazir: My line almost works: 25...Nxf3 26. Rxf3 Rxf3 27. Kxf3 Rf8+ 28. Kg3 (28. Ke2 Qxg4#; 28. Kg2 Qxg4+ 29. Kh1/Kh2 Rf3, with 30...Rh3 to follow) h5 29. Qd1 hxg4 30. Qxg4 Qxb1, and black is up an exchange and two pawns. But now white gets what looks like a perpetual: 31. Qe6+ Kh7 32. Qh3+ Kg6 33. Qe6+, etc. Too bad. |
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Nov-19-05
 | | al wazir: That perpetual turns out to be an illusion: 31. Qe6+ Kh8 32. Qh3+ Qh7, and black wins. |
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Nov-19-05 | | monad: 25...Rxf3 seems to work just as well. |
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Nov-19-05 | | kevin86: Black clears the f-file for his rook to service his target at f3. White cannot manoever his rook and queen to defend his poor rook at f3-it will go. |
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Nov-19-05 | | dakgootje: Missed it, calculated 25. ...♘xf3 26. ♖xf3 ♕xg4 27. ♖g3 ♕e4 firstly but considered didnt consider it good enough because of things like 28. ♔h3 so instead of looking a bit further i went for 25. ...♘xf3 26. ♕d1 not seeing 25. ...♘xf3 26. ♕d1 (or ♕c1) ♕xb1 27. ♕xb1 ♘xd2 ♕... with 28. ♘xf1 and maybe 28. ...♕xf1 29. ♖xf1 which i calculated while going to the game OR 25. ...♘xf3 26. ♕d1 (26. ♕c1 ♕xg4 27. ♔f2 ♘xd3 28. ♔e1 ♕e2#) ♕xg4 27. ♔f2 (♔h1 ♕h3#) ♘h4 28. ♔e1 ♘g2# which i calculated while writing this down. So i guess next time (but not tomorrow) better. ps: As i didnt used a board while writing it could be that i missed a move and/or calculated a variation which is illegal due to things like moving a piece to a square where theres already a piece. So if you see such thing, please feel free to say it and ill try to change it. :) |
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Nov-19-05 | | Rama: I liked 25 ... Nxf3, 26 Rxf3 Qe4, 27 Qd1 Rd6, with the intention of either doubling on the f-file or going to g-or h-file. Szabo's 27 ... h5, is better because it immediately restores contact with the enemy -- this is Averbakh's Theory of Contacts from his "Chess Tactics for Advanced Players." |
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Nov-19-05 | | EmperorAtahualpa: 25...Nxf3 combined with 26...Qe4 was one of the options I was considering, but I didn't definetely go for it, because I didn't see the critical move 27...h5! nor the effects of it. Nice puzzle! |
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Nov-19-05 | | ChessireCat: Earlier in the game, what's to stop: 18...N x c3, winning a pawn and the exchange? |
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Nov-19-05
 | | al wazir: <ChessireCat: what's to stop: 18...N x c3, winning a pawn and the exchange?> Good question. Nxc3 was playable on the next move too. Maybe Szabo figured he had a winning attack against the king. Or maybe the moves are recorded incorrectly? |
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Nov-19-05
 | | Richard Taylor: I couldn't see how Nf3 could win - although it was one of the first moves I looked at - I looked at:
1) 25. .... N:f3 (as played -but couldn't see a win) (and I looked at h5 ..but thought White could defend) 2) 25. ... R:f3 which I thought was the win eventually but 3) I also thought 25. ... Re4 might be the winning method 4) 25. ... Rf4
5) 25. ...h5
And other moves...
I saw 25. ...N:f3 26. R:f3 Qe4 27. Qf1 R:f3 28. Q:f3 Q:b1 29. Qd5+ Kh8 when I thought that White could play 30. Q:c4 but Qc7 wins the B - but stil it didnt look very heroic I missed h5 as played although I did look at it I couldn't see a win _ thought White had defence |
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Nov-19-05
 | | Richard Taylor: I think Szabo overlooked the win of the exchange (18 ...N:c3 wins the game) he was probably thinking about his attack on the King side -and thus blundered by ommission - an oversight - GMs also make them |
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Nov-19-05
 | | Richard Taylor: I thought mostly about 25. ...Re4
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1) 26. f:e4 Q:e4+ 27. Kg3 Rf3+ 28. R:f3 Q:f3+
5k1/1p6/3p2n1/2pP2P1/P1P1PqK1/3B4/1R2Q3
29. Kh5 Qh6+ 30. K:g5 Qh3+ 31. Kf5 Qf6#
29. Kh2 Qh3+ 30. Kg1 Nf3+ 31. K:f2 N:Qd1 31. R:e1 and I looked at a few moves and decided Black had a won ending From diagram 1
Obviously White has lot of moves! But amusing is 26. Qe2 Rff4  click for larger viewclick for larger view
here is 27. f:e4 Q:e4+ 28. now I forgot that Kg3 stops Rf3+ but I see now that after 28. Kg3 Nf3 night win. There are obviously a lot of other variations but it shows what strange thoughts one has!! |
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Nov-19-05
 | | Richard Taylor: But in this position
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26. ... N:f3 (the point of Re4) 27. R:f3 R:g4+ 28. Kh7 Rh5+ and Black picks up the Rook on b1 and wins |
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Nov-19-05
 | | Richard Taylor: So what does White do in this position after 25. ... Re4 by Black? click for larger view |
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Nov-19-05
 | | Richard Taylor: I thought of 26. f4 (Black threatens N:f3) Ne6 27. f5 R:g5+ 27. Kf2 Qf5+ 28. Ke2 Qd3+ and wins (!!) Or 26. g5 but I am sure Black can win with Nf4+ or R:f4 or Ng5 If after 26 f4 Ne6 27 Qg3
(This seems best for White)
So maybe the dream ends there! |
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Nov-20-05 | | clocked: <Richard Taylor>, <al wazir>, <ChessireCat> your Nxc3 question was answered above. |
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Nov-20-05
 | | tpstar: <clocked> Nice to see you again! Where's the monkey with the watch?! =) |
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Nov-20-05 | | clocked: <tpstar> if the monkey's name was Jonah... |
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Nov-20-05 | | patzer2: Although Informant's 1980 Encyclopedia of Chess Middle Games classified the combination starting with 25. Nxf3! as "demolition of pawn structure," it might also have qualified as a pinning combination. For example, in the final position play could continue 27.Qe2 Qxg4+ 28. Kf2 Rxf3+ 29. Qxf3 Rf8 with a decisive pin. |
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Nov-21-05
 | | al wazir: <clocked: your Nxc3 question was answered above.> Thanks. I didn't understand your answer the first time I read it because I must not have read <An Englishman>'s post. |
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Mar-12-06 | | LluviaSean: Wait, wait, wait...why doesnt black do 18...Nxc3 ?? |
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Mar-12-06
 | | tpstar: ChessBase 8.0 confirms White played 18. Be1 instead (not 18. Bc1), then the position corrects with 22. Bd2. I'll submit the correction. |
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Aug-07-20
 | | plang: 8..Bb7 is the main line; 8..c5 was new but has not achieved much popularity. Szabo suggested 9 dxc with play against the hanging pawns; this choice would have kept White's queenside bishop active. 19 Nf4 is an odd looking move; 19 f3 looks more consistent. 24 Rh1..Rxf4 25 exf..Nxf4+ 26 Bxf4..Qxf4 27 Rf1..Re3 and if ie. 28 Rb5..Ne4! would not have helped White. |
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