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Kaissa (Computer) vs Tell (Computer)
World Computer Championship (1977), Toronto CAN
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. Rio Gambit Accepted (C67)  ·  1-0

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May-15-04  MoonlitKnight: 12.Qa5?? Even I could have beaten this machine!
May-16-04
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  tpstar: Oh yes, it's those unnatural moves like 9 ... c5?! and 10 ... h5?! that made us zany humans overconfident about the massive potential of computer chess, at least in the 70s & 80s. But let's evaluate 12. Bg5!:

1) 12 ... f6 13. Qxe6 fxg5 14. Qg6+ Kf8 15. Nxe7 wins a piece.

2) 12 ... Bf6 13. Bxf6 gxf6 14. Qd6 intending 15. Nc7+ (15 ... Qa5 16. Qe7++).

3) 12 ... Bxg5 13. Nc7+ (14. Qxg7?! Rf8 15. Rxe6+ fxe6 16. Qg6+ Rf7 17. Qxe6+ Be7 18. Re1 Kf8) Kf8 14. Nxa8 was best, where Black can probably win the Na8, yet this was all undoubtedly outside of the computer's range to foresee.

The upside to 12 ... Qa5?! is an escape square for the King at d8, also hitting the Bb5, even though it loses a piece (13. Bxe7), plus 13 ... Qxb5?! 14. Nc7+ Nxc7 15. Qxc7 wins (15 ... f6 16. Qd8+; 15 ... Qb6 16. Bxc5+). After 13 ... a6 14. Qxg7! (14 ... Nxg7 15. Nf6++) won quickly anyway. Therefore, maybe this game isn't as awful as you might think, and remember White was a computer, too.

May-31-04  iron maiden: Anyone know the quickest loss by a computer in the database? Was it this game?
Jun-01-04  600POUNDGORILLA: <iron maiden> Compx Chess 46 vs Short, 1977 is the quickest computer loss in the database.
Apr-29-09  WhiteRook48: why not 12...Bxg5?

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