Klaudiusz Urban vs Stefan Gross (1989)

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Klaudiusz Urban vs Stefan Gross
Nuremberg op (1989), Nuremberg FRG
Formation: Queen Pawn Game: London System (D02) · 0-1

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Dec-23-04		tpstar: Urban Sprawl

Dec-23-04		DanielBryant: Urban Congestion.

Dec-23-04		azaris: Stop these gross puns immediately or u-r-banned!

Dec-23-04		tpstar: If you are accusing me of Gross negligence, that is pure Urban legend.

Jul-21-05		soberknight: Fork in the Urban road.

Jul-22-05		BishopofBlunder: This was certainly a sub-Urban performance.

Sep-21-06		biglo: The Indian Gross national product was too great despite the Urban renewal in Nuernberg

Jan-31-08		wolfmaster: All of your Gross jokes Urbanned!

Jan-31-08		alexmagnus: a Gross Urban legend?:)

Jan-02-09		WhiteRook48: Urban said his opponent smelled gross so he made an un-urban blunder

Dec-27-09		mysql: Are they grandmasters?

Dec-30-09		wordfunph: <mysql: Are they grandmasters?> No.

Dec-30-09		mysql: Is any of them of master strength? If not, then why is this game here?

Dec-31-09		wordfunph: <mysql: Is any of them of master strength? If not, then why is this game here?> master strength maybe yes..

Dec-31-09		mysql: <wordfunph: <mysql: Is any of them of master strength? If not, then why is this game here?> master strength maybe yes..> Most probably Gross is the master.

Dec-31-09		wordfunph: mysql: <wordfunph: <mysql: Is any of them of master strength? If not, then why is this game here?> master strength maybe yes..> <Most probably Gross is the master.> mukha nga si gross, at first look eh the final position looks equal but e4 was coming for black pala..

Dec-31-09		mysql: White could have played 8. e5.

Dec-31-09		wordfunph: Urban - Gross, Nuernberg (1-2) 1989 click for larger view Analysis by Fritz 9: 1. (-2.09): 9.Bg5 e4 10.Bxe4 Rxe4 11.d5 Nb8 12.Nbd2 Re8 13.Qa4 Nbd7 14.Qh4 c6 15.dxc6 bxc6 16.Rfd1 2. (-2.09): 9.d5 Nb8 10.Bg5 e4 11.Bxe4 3. (-2.18): 9.Bg3 e4 10.Bc2 exf3 11.Qxf3 Nh5 12.Nd2 Qf6 13.Qxf6 Nxf6 14.e4 h6 15.Rfe1 Be6 16.b3 4. (-2.18): 9.Bh2 e4 10.Bc4 exf3 11.Qxf3 Qe7 12.Nd2 Bf5 13.Bf4 Ne4 14.Nxe4 Qxe4 15.Qg3 Be6 5. (-2.40): 9.Re1 exf4 10.e4 Qe7 11.Qd2 Nh5 12.Na3 Bd7 13.Rad1 h6 14.Nb5 Rac8 15.c4 Be6 i'm sure this helps bro <mysql> hehe..

Dec-31-09		mysql: <i'm sure this helps bro <mysql> hehe..> What about if white plays 8. e5? I'm pretty sure black still has the advantage after that, but at least white doesn't lose a piece immediately.

Dec-31-09		zanshin: <mysql: What about if white plays 8. e5?> Bro, you mean <8.e4>, right? The resignation might have been early, but may be justified.

Dec-31-09		mysql: <Bro, you mean <8.e4>, right?> Sorry, yeah I meant 8. e4.

Mar-08-12		whiteshark: You mean Gross is not nett? Huh, who knew.

Apr-04-15		A.T PhoneHome: <This was certainly a sub-Urban performance.> Clever one, <BishopofBlunder>! My suggestion is Gross Manifest.

Jun-11-16		whiteshark: Gross indecency!

Mar-30-25		FM David H. Levin: <<mysql>: [...snip...] What about if white plays 8. e4 [corrected per later kibitz]? I'm pretty sure black still has the advantage after that, but at least white doesn't lose a piece immediately.> A possible continuation after 8. e4 is 8...e5 <If now 9. Bg5, then 9...exd4 10. cxd4 Nxe4! 11. Bxd8 Nxc3+ regains the queen while opening the position to Black's benefit.> 9. dxe5 Nxe5 <This knight didn't have much scope, so Black seeks to exchange it.> 10. Nxe5 dxe5 11. Bg5 h6 <If now 12. Bh4, then 12...Qd6 would probably induce 13. Bxf6 in order to prevent ...Nh5 and ...Nf4.> 12. Bxf6 Qxf6, click for larger view intending to shortly redeploy the dark-square bishop to c5 via f8. Better seems 8. Be2, which would evade a potential fork, avoid disturbing White's central pawns, and inhibit 8...e5 owing to 9. dxe5 dxe5 10. Qxd8, followed by the capture of Black's e-pawn.

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