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Garry Kasparov vs Vladimir Kramnik
Kasparov - Kramnik Classical World Championship Match (2000), London ENG, rd 13, Oct-29
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Aug-09-04  ArturoRivera: do you really think that <CrackerSmack>??, probe it!!
Aug-10-04
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  Zenchess: I think Kasparov was mentally beat to the point where he tried hard in some games but not in others. And in the ones he tried hard in, he couldn't gain/increase his advantage.
Dec-09-04  Bobak Zahmat: This fast draw was problably for Kasparov the key, how to play the next game. Maybe he would like to prepare some variations for the next time.
Aug-13-07  whiteshark: What? Draw this, when 2 games behind?
Oct-31-07  RookFile: This is just another illustration of the fact that Kasparov had flaws in his match play.
Oct-31-07  Riverbeast: Kramnik took a page out of Kasparov's book in this match, though - resurrecting old lines and finding new wrinkles in them. Remember when Kasparov busted out the Scotch against Karpov and showed new ways of playing it?

Kramnik's brilliant reanalysis of the Berlin Defense (which had previously been considered inferior for black) was what won him this match in many ways. Kasparov could not win a single game against it. After that the Berlin became all the rage, and a lot of the top GMs started playing it.

Oct-31-07  KamikazeAttack: <RookFile: This is just another illustration of the fact that Kasparov had flaws in his match play.>

How insightful. LOl

Don't tell us all along u thought Kasparov was flawless?

Oct-31-07  RookFile: Remember that in the '72 match, Fischer showed his versatility, by using a multitude of openings, designed to probe for weaknesses. In this match, Kasparov shows an unwillingness, or lack of preparation, to use this effective technique.

Just another example of how Kasparov didn't quite measure up the very best match players.

Oct-31-07  KamikazeAttack: RF u r a trip hahaha.
Oct-31-07  Riverbeast: <Don't tell us all along u thought Kasparov was flawless?>

KamikazeAttack, what's up? I remember you from the Fischer forum.

I was under the impression you thought Kasparov was flawless...Weren't you the one arguing that Fischer was overrated, and nowhere near Kasparov's class?

Oct-31-07  KamikazeAttack: KamikazeAttack: <Riverbeast: <Don't tell us all along u thought Kasparov was flawless?> KamikazeAttack, what's up? I remember you from the Fischer forum. I was under the impression you thought Kasparov was flawless...Weren't you the one arguing that Fischer was overrated, and nowhere near Kasparov's class? >

Yup, that's me. U agree now:)

Oct-31-07  RookFile: I think KamikazeAttack admires the 'deer in the headlights' look that Kasparov displayed with this game.
Oct-31-07  KamikazeAttack: My main interest isn't so much Kasparov but Fischer being overrated.

The myth surrounding the man must be broken.

Oct-31-07  RookFile: Ah yes. Kasparov loses, and it's Fischer's fault.

Carry on.

Nov-01-07  pacelli: Of course it's Bobby's fault. He should have refuted this entire line in the late 70s, but he quit chess back then instead.
Jul-24-08  RookFile: Fischer would have cut off his right arm before he played a game like this - especially two games down with the match winding down. A win here would have put Kasparov within a victory of tying up the match.
Sep-11-08  Karpova: Vladimir Kramnik: <Kasparov hadn't recovered from the blow in Game 12, understanding that he'd missed a real chance to take hold of the match. Apparently he had a sleepless night. He came out to Game 13 in a state. I felt this, I saw the bags under his eyes, and at the board I decided to change the variation that I'd prepared earlier. I realised that at this point he could only win in the opening, if he got a big advantage. I basically gave him a tempo by changing the move order. So he got a position that was even more favourable than in the home analysis, but in that he knew the move order and in this he just flailed around, he mixed everything up.>

Bareev, Evgeny & Levitov, Ilya: "From London to Elista", Alkmaar, 2007, page 149

Sep-17-08  RookFile: Once upon a time, in the first game of the first Tal vs. Botvinnik match, Botvinnik made an unusual move.... that put Tal in an unknown situation. Rather than concede a draw, Tal reached down, outcalculated Botvinnik, and won the game.
Dec-20-11  Lil Swine: tal would've been a lot better if it weren't for his smoking, drinking, and hospitalization
Nov-07-15
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  Everett: <Premium Chessgames MemberOct-31-07 RookFile: Remember that in the '72 match, Fischer showed his versatility, by using a multitude of openings, designed to probe for weaknesses. In this match, Kasparov shows an unwillingness, or lack of preparation, to use this effective technique.>

Probably has to do with Kasparov's multiple WC match defenses. '86, '87, '90, '93, '95 and '00. Probably a little burnt out at this point. Not so easy to keep it fresh when everyone was coming after you for 15 years after winning the WC. Of course, Kasparov wasn't the one-and-done "chess is played out so I quit" kind of guy.

Nov-07-15
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  Everett: <memberJul-24-08 RookFile: Fischer would have cut off his right arm before he played a game like this ->

He'd sooner quit, clearly.

Feb-20-16  RookFile: Actually, Fischer's 1992 match with Spassky gives us a clue what Fischer would have done. Remember that Spassky caught Fischer unprepared for the latest wrinkles in the Ruy and won a game with black. Fischer switched to a system where he played d3 and deferred the d4 push until later. He sometimes played like this - see his game against Smyslov in My 60 memorable games. This approach allows white to play for a long grind.
Feb-20-16  RookFile: Fischer vs Smyslov, 1965
Feb-20-16  RookFile: In this game, Anand makes good us of an early d3 strategy. Of course black gets a lot of draws in this line too. My feeling on the matter is if you want to win you keep as many pieces on the board as possible.

Anand vs Kramnik, 2013

Feb-29-16  snack: I had the good fortune of attending games #12 and #13 at the Hammersmith Studios (thanks Dad!). This game ended so early in fact that Michael Adams and Eric Schiller invited people to the main board for some impromptu blitz!

I was selected to play Mr. Schiller (being a chubby 14 y.o American, I must have screamed "Minnow"). Indeed, my lowly USCF rating of ~1140, should have meant no-contest, but according to the commentators (including Adams and L. Evans, IIRC), I had a winning Re2 - trapping a stranded knight FtW!!

Sadly, I missed my chance, Schiller recovered and ended up winning.

I guess it is a longshot, but should anyone have the footage / transcript of the game - I would be very grateful!

Here's hoping / TIA

1.e4!

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