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George Webb Medley vs Paul Morphy
Casual Game (1858), London Club, London ENG, Aug-24
Spanish Game: Cozio Defense. General (C60)  ·  0-1

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Oct-31-07  dovif: it would cost a Q, ie
BxR, RxB ... B D5 mate at g7
Feb-17-08  JimmyVermeer: I thought Morphy missed an easy mate in 3 on his 38th move, but then I came here and saw a White Rook at e1. Sergeant lists White's 37th move as QR-K1, and I took it to mean the rook on the queen's file.

A possible continuation at the end is 40 Bg2 Qxc1 41 Rxc1 b2 42 Rf1 Bxg2 43 Kxg2 c1Q, but I`m not sure what White would do after that.

On Medley's 31st move, he should have tried Rac1. The move he actually played seems to be the 2nd best, though, even though it was decidedly a crucial blunder.

Apr-30-08  melv: Why doesnt white take pawn g7 on move 14?
Jun-22-08  heuristic: <Why doesnt white take pawn g7 on move 14?> must have been afraid of protecting the K against Morphy with an open g file, 2 Bs and Q+R! otherwise, it's the right thing to do.
14.Qxg7 Kd7 15.Rd1 Kc7 16.Nd2 Qg8
14...Qf6 15.Qxf6 Nxf6 16.Re1 Rg8
14...Rf8 15.Re1 Qc7 16.Qg5 Be7
14...Qh4 15.Qxh8+ Kd7 16.g3 Rxh8 17.gxh4
14...Bxh2+ 15.Kxh2 Qc7+ 16.Kg1 0-0-0

<it would cost a Q, ie 19.BxR, RxB ... B D5 mate at g7> 19.Bxa8 Rxa8 20.Nd2 f5 21.Qg2 Qh5 22.Re1 seems to hold the game.

Medley wasn't very aggressive this game!

Dec-26-10  josejoasm: Anyway I would take pawn in 14.Qxg7 ;-)
Aug-23-14
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  naresb: Nice RL with Black win, nice game by P. Morphy. But White was equally good except 31st move. 31. QxRd8 was poor show by White. Yes, 14. Qxg7 should have been captured.

After 9. NxNd4, with c8-h3 & d8-h4 diagonals under Black's control and knowing opponent as Morphy, I think 11. O-O could have been avoided.

Sep-16-17  Adriano Saldanha: melv and heuristic are right: Bd6 was especulative. Game was perfectly even until then, and computer (Stockfish 5) suggests Queen, instead of Bishop, to d6 on move 14, with a good game.
Jan-14-18  zanzibar: Played in London Club, Aug. 24 (Medley was Honary Secretary of LCC).

A proper reference should be supplied by any researcher with access to the "storied" British newspaper archives.

Jan-15-18
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  MissScarlett: See Game Collection: 1858 Morphy in London Trying to properly document Morphy's games is a Herculean task. <The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few.>
Jan-15-18  zanzibar: Just putting in the right date isn't properly documenting this game.

It needs the Source tag updated, and maybe a note about the specific location.

RE: <The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few.>

PS- <MissS> how about buying me a subscription to the British newspaper archive?

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Jan-16-18
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  MissScarlett: <Just putting in the right date isn't properly documenting this game.>

Who said it was? I don't think using Source tags, even assuming they could be readily added or edited, is sufficient either. Game collections are the best solution.

<<MissS> how about buying me a subscription to the British newspaper archive?>

Cheeky monkey! Alas, it flounders for the same reason that I don't simply share my log-in details for my own account with you - you would know my identity. That is highly classified information.

Jan-16-18
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  TheFocus: Me and Edward Winter know your name.
Jan-16-18  capafischer1: On move 19 for white after BXR then RXB threatening BD5 followed by mate, but white can play Qg2 kicking the black queen, where is the win for black?? , he is just down an exchange.
Jan-16-18
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  Big Pawn: <capafisher1>, if 19.Bxa8 Rxa8 20.Qg2 then black would have to retreat his queen in order to keep attaching chances alive and hope to exploit the white squares around the white king.

I could be afraid of ghosts, but I don't like to trade my fianchetto bishop for a rook when the other guy still has that same colored bishop on the board. It can get tricky.

For instance, if black plays after 20.Qg2 Qh5 that already threatens ...Bh3 winning the exchange back if he wants. If 21.Re1 to avoid losing the exchange then 21...Bd5 seems kinda crushing.

Jan-16-18  zanzibar: <<Missy> Cheeky monkey! Alas, it flounders for the same reason that I don't simply share my log-in details for my own account with you - you would know my identity. That is highly classified information.>

Isn't that what they invented bitcoin for?

Anyways, I value my anonymity as well - just deposit the money with the BNL, and forward me the email with the secret link. Nobody will be none the wiser.

OK, we return control of your post to you, (i.e. you and <Focus> can resume blowing each other little kisses again!), until next time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b2...

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Jan-20-18
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  MissScarlett: Why can't you get your own subscription?
Jan-20-18
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  TheFocus: <zanzibar> <OK, we return control of your post to you, (i.e. you and <Focus> can resume blowing each other little kisses again!), until next time...>

He is just jealous he has not risen to mine and yours expertise.

It must be crap for him to be #6 historian on the site. Maybe #5 because <thomastonk> left.

Jan-20-18
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  MissScarlett: I'm saving all my kisses for another poster.
Jan-20-18
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  WorstPlayerEver: Anyway, after 14. Qxg7 Black is completely lost.
Jan-20-18
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  MissScarlett: Nobody in their right mind would play that against Morphy. It's just fortunate for computers that they're mindless.
Jan-20-18
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  morfishine: Very well played by Morphy, Medley could simply not break through
Jan-20-18
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  TheFocus: <MissScarlett: I'm saving all my kisses for another poster.>

Lucky man, that <harrylime> is.

Jan-20-18  zanzibar: <It must be crap for him to be #6 historian on the site. Maybe #5 because <thomastonk> left.>

Ha, I'm #1 in looks and charm, honey-bunny.

Jan-21-18
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  WorstPlayerEver: Yeah, engines are dumb; they can't play chess. But I think Harry wins when it comes to the comfort of numbness.
Mar-11-19  bkpov: Like Morphy no. there should be Morphy move no. Strength of the opposition should be gauzed by the % of games lost in less than 25-30 moves.
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