| Jan-26-04 | | Gunnar Abelido: Bareev's 9.g4 was a interesting novelty, anybody think its unsound? |
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| Jan-27-04 | | PinkPanther: I don't think it was unsound since Bareev was probably planning on castling queenside. The pawn sacrifice is somewhat similar to the Shirov-Shabalov Gambit in the Semi-Slav, in that he's trying to open up lines against the enemy king, but this isn't even a sacrifice. Once the knight takes on g4 the white rook moves to g1, the knight moves out of the way and the rook takes on g7 destroying the black kingside. |
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| Jan-29-04 | | AdrianP: The position after 9 g4!? has been reached before (by transposition: in the present game W lost a tempo with g3 and B with Qc7) in the following game [Event "DLM"]
[Site "Germany"]
[Date "1997.10.??"]
[Round "0"]
[White "Prusikhin,Mihailo"]
[Black "Florea,Dan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "E38"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Qc2 c5 5.dxc5 Bxc5 6.Nf3 Qb6 7.e3 Be7 8.g4 d6
9.b3 Nc6 10.Bb2 Bd7 11.g5 Nh5 12.Be2 Qa5 13.a3 g6 14.b4 Qd8 15.Nb5 e5 16.Rd1 0-0
17.Nxd6 Bxd6 18.Rxd6 Qe7 19.c5 Bg4 20.Qc3 Rae8 21.Nxe5 Nxe5 22.Bxg4 Qxg5 23.Bxh5 Qxh5 24.f4 Nf3+
25.Kf2 f6 26.Rxf6 Qh4+ 27.Ke2 Rf7 28.Re6 Ng1+ 29.Rxg1 Qxh2+ 30.Kd3 Rd7+ 31.Rd6 Rxe3+ 32.Kxe3 Qxg1+
33.Kd2 Qf2+ 34.Kd1 Qf1+ 35.Kc2 1-0
The move itself may not be 'unsound' but it sure looks super-committal. |
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Jan-29-04
 | | chessgames.com: We went ahead and added that game. M Prusikhin vs D Florea, 1997 |
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| Jan-29-04 | | shr0pshire: G4 isn't that much of a novelty. Let's not give that much credit to Bareev, even though I think he is maybe the best attacking player at times, g4 isn't as rare as one me think. Playing g4 can be seen in such openings as the grob opening, shirov-shabalov gambit, bayonette attack, among others. It is nice to see this unrothodox style at such high levels. Bareev didn't have to come up with new theory for this opening, as long as one is familar with the g4 in any of the other openings, the same principles can be applied to this variation of the nimzo indian. It isn't super committal, but it may look like that because these openings are unothdox. Sometimes even after extending the g4 pawn in the opening white still castles king side. It depends on the situation on the board, but most of the time the king is safer in the center or castling queen side. I give Bareev a lot of credit for trying this out at a tournament such as the corus tournament, and on such a top level player as Akopian! |
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| Jan-29-04 | | Benjamin Lau: <shropshire>
I agree that the idea is itself not new- there is the Keres attack in the Scheveningen as well as several others you mention. However, you don't seem to take into account that g4!? normally isn't seen in the Nimzo Indian at all. It's a good idea of course, kicking the Nf6 knight thus charging e4 if black does not play ...h6 but it is not considered thematic in the position and certainly not book. That's why I would consider it a novelty. The regularity of g4!? in the Nimzo is about as much as it is in the Ruy- very rarely. g4!? is however somewhat more common in the ...c5 Nimzo variants than the Qc2 o-o and Qc2 d5 lines. |
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| Feb-07-04 | | Benjamin Lau: <Sneaky, wherever you are> The last time I saw "Sneaky's Scrapbook," there was a QGD game with the wishful comment "The g4! spike in the Nimzo" and you had kibitzes indicating that while it was not really the Nimzo, you often saw similar positions arising out of that particular variant of the QGD. Here's a real Nimzo with a real g4!? for your scrapbook. |
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| Mar-07-04 | | Afridi: Bareev played very well when he put the Bayonet attack with g4!(though he was not giving a pawn becuase he cud regain it after 9...Nxg4 10.Rg1 and capture the g7 pawn) to the test all just at the risk of keeping his King wide open to Akopian.I think the C file was too open for black to attack the White king(but a threat of Rc5 also exsisted if Qc7 goes there) . The only thing that Bareev consentrated was keeping the attak rolling from the g file and as well as the a1 h8 diagnol , and then f file for his Bishop and rooks on f file. Apart from the tremendious intiative he had, Bareev had seemed he had a piece up in the percurser to the endgame as black played one piece less with a Knight on h8!!! Doomed to pasivity. That was a sad factor, but adding salt to wounds I find from my shredder7 that Akpoin cud still turn the tables on move 31 and 32 i think with his 31...Rf4 threatning both the Queen and the drangerious Bishop on C4.There he had two chnaces but missed it. the end was magnificent as the rook went over to Ra5 i think Bareev had intutive power to see that well ahead as he exchnaged the queens.
In the End I think the game has brought a turning point in my reportire in studying this line with zeal and spirit after Akpoian an Bareev's game. :) |
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| May-19-04 | | Benjamin Lau: What was the point of 7. g3 since he played 9. g4!? later? Was 9. g4!? sudden inspiration, or was it all planned and 7. g3 was only a "waiting move?" |
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May-20-04
 | | Honza Cervenka: Quite interesting would have been 14...Nxg4. Then 15.Qxg4 Qxe3+ is bad for white and after 15.Rxg4 f5 I don't see anything better than 16.Qxc6+ Qxc6 17.Rxh4 with three minor pieces for the Queen and Pawn. 15.c5!? leads to wild complications: 15...Bxf2+ 16.Ke2 dxc5 [16...Qa6+ 17.b5 Qa5 18.Rxg4 f5 (18...Qxc3 19.bxc6 Qxa1 20.cxb7) 19.Qc2 fxg4 20.Nc4 Qc7 21.Nxd6+ Kd8 22.bxc6 Bh4 23.Qd3 Ke7 24.Nf5+ Kf7 (24...exf5?? 25.Nd5+  ) 25.Nxh4 Qxh2+ 26.Ng2 bxc6 etc.] 17.Rxg4 (17.Nc4 Qd8 etc.) 17...f5 18.Nc4 Qd8 19.Qf4 fxg4 20.Nd6+ (20.Qxf2 Rf8 21.Qg3 Qf6) 20...Kd7 [20...Ke7 21.Qf7+ Kxd6 22.Nb5+ Kd5 23.Nc7+ Kd6 (23...Kc4? 24.Qf4+ Kb3 25.Rb1+ ) 24.Nb5+ =] 21.Nf7 Qf8 with an unclear and very complex position. |
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| Jan-14-05 | | wils: on move 40 bb3? maybe rxf7+if nxr rxn+kg8 rf4 + rxb rxr maybe quicker endgame for wht? swaping a r+b for n+r +pawn |
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| Jun-06-08 | | ezmerin: Another superb combination launched by g4 move is:
Krasenkow vs Sveshnikov, 1992
Looks like g4 is extremly powerful in quiet 1. d4 lines, against opponents, who prefer positional play. It's like a tide turning everyhing upside down. And it provides lot of excitement! |
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| Feb-11-11 | | Salaskan: The position after move 31 should be a puzzle. Everyone will be looking for a tactical finish with the raging bishops only to find nothing against black's overprotected kingside. It takes an open mind to find 32.Bc1!! ending the attack but leaving black's pieces misplaced for the endgame. |
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