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Maia Chiburdanidze vs Astra Goldman
"Goldman Sacked" (game of the day Nov-03-2020)
16th Soviet Team-ch final A (1983), Moscow URS, rd 3, Jul-24
Sicilian Defense: Nimzowitsch. Advance Variation (B29)  ·  1-0

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May-22-10
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  whiteshark: Goldman, ♕ Sacs!
Oct-28-20
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  FSR: Goldman Sacked.
Nov-03-20
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: I give up--why does 14...Re8 not work? It seems to paralyze White's position. If 15.Rd1,Kh8; 16.Qxd5??,Qxe2X.
Nov-03-20  areknames: <why does 14...Re8 not work?> It's not a bad move but it can be comfortably met by 15.0-0. The prophylactic 14...h6 is maybe better.
Nov-03-20  Brenin: Good pun, for a change. 19 ... Qe8, preventing Qh5 and abandoning the d-pawn, was needed.
Nov-03-20
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  Messiah: What an absolutely horrific pun without the least trace of creativity! Raunch!
Nov-03-20
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  FSR: <Messiah> Why don't you write your own brilliant puns and show us how it's done?
Nov-03-20
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  Messiah: <FSR: <Messiah> Why don't you write your own brilliant puns and show us how it's done?>

Thank you for the encouraging, I will try.

Nov-03-20  goodevans: <FSR: <Messiah> Why don't you write your own brilliant puns and show us how it's done?>

l believe that <Messiah> was responsible recently for the pun for Larsen vs Kasparov, 1987 which one kibitzer found to be "extremely high quality ".

Nov-03-20  Brenin: The pun managed to combine a player's name with relevant features of the game, namely the result and the fact that White's last move sac'd the N (21 ... gxh5 22 Qh5 mate). That's a lot better than some recent puns.
Nov-03-20
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  AylerKupp: <<goodevans> believe that <Messiah> was responsible recently for the pun for Larsen vs Kasparov, 1987 which one kibitzer found to be "extremely high quality ".>

Yes he was. And the same kibitzer was responsible for the pun for Aydin vs P Peev, 1972 which he described as "Extremely good and high quality pun for a rather unusual game. Well done!"

Of course, the same kibitzer was the one who submitted both puns so he might have been somewhat biased in terms of judging the puns' high quality. And maybe equally biased in judging other puns' perceived low quality. I suppose that he has to try harder to work on his objectivity.

Nov-03-20  newzild: <<areknames>: <why does 14...Re8 not work?> It's not a bad move but it can be comfortably met by 15.0-0. The prophylactic 14...h6 is maybe better.>

I think <An Englishman>'s point is:

14...Re8
15. 0-0 Qxe2

Nov-03-20  Brenin: <newzild>: 14... Re8 15 0-0 Qxe2 is answered with 16 Qxd5+ and 17 Qxc5, regaining the piece and leaving White a P ahead with a good position.
Nov-03-20
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  Messiah: <AylerKupp: <<goodevans> believe that <Messiah> was responsible recently for the pun for Larsen vs Kasparov, 1987 which one kibitzer found to be "extremely high quality ".>

Yes he was. And the same kibitzer was responsible for the pun for Aydin vs P Peev, 1972 which he described as "Extremely good and high quality pun for a rather unusual game. Well done!"

Of course, the same kibitzer was the one who submitted both puns so he might have been somewhat biased in terms of judging the puns' high quality. And maybe equally biased in judging other puns' perceived low quality. I suppose that he has to try harder to work on his objectivity.>

Thank you for pointing out this pressing issue. Certainly, I try very hard to remain completely objective and unbiased.

Nov-03-20
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  FSR: <AylerKupp> Yes, <Messiah> does seem very impressed by his own puns. Go figure.
Nov-04-20
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  AylerKupp: <<FSR> Go figure.>

He's just a troll, desperate for attention. Lately he's been on a campaign to indicate how much he dislikes all puns except his own. Tomorrow, who knows?

Macbeth, Scene 5, is appropriate here:

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Nov-04-20
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  fredthebear: Rather apropos for national election day, gentlemen. (Those mail-in ballots sure changed who's on top.)

This game is a clean Greco's Mate-in-one. FTB recently posted useful links demonstrating Greco's Mate here:

John David Turner vs I Ponter, 2004

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