| Nov-15-04 | | acirce: I tend to agree with those (Dillinger, cheski) who labelled 38..Ba3 the losing move - wastes time just to misplace the bishop. How about just 38..Kg6 with the plan ..Kf5, ..e4 fxe4 Kxe4, then walking with the king towards a8 with a safe draw due to wrong-colored bishop for White (Black can sac his bishop for the b-pawn if needed, and even if not needed). 39.Kc2 Kf5 40.a4 e4 41.fxe4+ Kxe4 42.Kc3 Kd5
39.Kc2 Kf5 40.Kd3 Kf4 41.Ke2 e4
39.Kc2 Kf5 40.Kd3 Kf4 41.a4? Kxf3 and maybe White even loses? 42.Kc4 Bf2 43.a5 e4 44.a6 Ba7 |
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| Nov-15-04 | | yoozum: yes, i'm definitely seeing problems with ba3. if he didn't move ba3 and and followed up with kg6, he could have moved his pawn twice and after that could have covered it with bishop and/or king. bareev definitely blundered here. |
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| Nov-15-04 | | aragorn69: After 38.-Kg6, isn't 39.a4 the normal White move -and what Bareev wanted to prevent- ? And now a) 39.-Kf5 40.a5 followed by 41.Bb6 seems to win easily; or b) 39.-Bb4 (note that Black loses a move here too, but in worse conditions) 40.a5 Bxa5 41.Bxa5 should win thanks to the b pawn. What am I missing my dear ending expert <acirce> ?? |
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| Nov-15-04 | | clocked: <aragorn69> 39.a4 Kf5 40.a5 e4 41.fxe4+ Kxe4 and then what? 42.Bb6 Kd5 |
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| Nov-15-04 | | acirce: Good thing you mentioned that, 38..Kg6 39.a4 Kf5 40.a5 e4 41.Bb6 Bxb6 42.fxe4+ Ke5 43.axb6 Kd6 and at least it doesn't look as if White wins. Probably (?) a draw. Or 41.fxe4+ Kxe4 42.Bb6 Kd5 of course. |
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| Nov-15-04 | | acirce: <clocked> I don't believe you, you're too fast ;-) |
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| Nov-15-04 | | Attacker: Wow, I guess this is the anaylsis I've been missing on most pages. Great anaylsis acirce (is that Italian?). "What am I missing my dear ending expert." Good thing acirce is an endgame expert because I'm a patzer in endgames. :) |
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Nov-15-04
 | | Gypsy: Maybe Bareev was in a time-trouble? Indeed, 38...Kg6 does seem to hold the draw; Black needs to be acurate though. 39.a4 Kf5 40.a5 e4! This comes just in time to stop the thematic Bb6. Both 41.fxe4 Kxe4 42.Bb6(?) Kd5 as well as 41.Bb6(?) Bxb6 42.axb6 exf3 look splendid for Black. Thus draw. |
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Nov-15-04
| | Gypsy: Good lord you guys are fast. Only the first <acirce>'s message was here a moment ago. |
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| Nov-15-04 | | aragorn69: <acirce> & <clocked> Thx a lot for the (super-fast)answers.
42.-Ke5! in <acirce>'s first line is what I had missed. It should then be a draw, althoug White has to watch out, when he comes back from snatching the h pawn. |
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Nov-15-04
| | Gypsy: <It should then be a draw, althoug White has to watch out, when he comes back from snatching the h pawn.> More than that. White has to be clever even when marching for the pawn: <38..Kg6 39.a4 Kf5 40.a5 e4 41.Bb6 Bxb6 42.fxe4+ Ke5 43.axb6 Kd6> 44.Kc2 Kc6 45.Kd3 Kxc6 44.Kd4! (necessary; it gains a tempo) Kb5 45.Ke5 h5 (the time-loss to save Pe6) 46.Kf4 Kb4 47.Kg5 Kxb3 48.Kxh5 (with enough caution on both sides, this king sabre-dance ends in a draw, eg) Kc4 49.Kg5 Kd4 50.Kf4 Kd3 =. |
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Nov-16-04
 | | IMlday: Indeed 38..Ba3? looked like the pooch move to my intuition also. I was surprised Kasparov didn't take the repetition since black's h-pawn seemed the most dangerous one on the board.
Probably Bareyev had bad clock since the board position doesn't justify K. playing to win/lose. |
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| Nov-16-04 | | milanez: here is some comments from Garry himself:
17.Bd2
The first critical moment of the game; Kasparov briefly mentioned that on 17.Ne4 he didn’t like 17...Qc7. 17...Qc7 18.c4 Qxc5 19.Ne4 Qc6 20.Kb1 Nb6 21.b3 Rad8 22.Qf3 Rd4 Here Garry evaluated his position as inferior.
23.Nd6 f6?
But this move turns the tables! “I don’t like this move structurally,” said Kasparov. Black should have played 23...Bxd6! After the exchange of queens he would block White’s passed pawn and start playing for a win. White’s chances for survival were considerable, but a draw was not guaranteed. 24.Nb5
Also interesting was 24.Be3.
24...Qxf3 25.gxf3 Rd3 26.Ba5 Rxd1+ 27.Rxd1 Nc8
Garry noted the good stubborn defense by Bareev.
28.Rd7 fxe5 29.Rxb7 Bxh4
The position is close to being equal, but is obviously quite sharp. 30.Bb4 Rd8 31.Ba5 Rf8 32.Bb4 Rd8 33.c5 Be7 34.Nxa7 Nxa7 35.Rxa7 Bf8 36.Ba5 Bxc5 37.Rxg7+ Kxg7 38.Bxd8 Ba3? The losing move; after 38...Kg6! a fine problem-like game would ensue leading to a queen endgame with an extra pawn for White, which would offer certain practical chances. Now it’s pure technique. |
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| Nov-16-04 | | crepo: Kasparov 12 - Bareev 0 |
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| Nov-16-04 | | rndapology: Hmmm...I was wondering why Bareev played f6 instead of Bxd6 when watching the game. 23 ...Bxd6 24. QxQ PxQ 25. PxB Nd7 (RxP? c5) 26. Be3 RxR 27. RxR, the pawn is blockaded and black does not look terribly bad, albeit passive. Bxd6 definetly looked better than allowing white's knight to b5. |
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| Nov-17-04 | | diablotins: for me it's 23. Nd6 that's difficult to fully understand, I would say that it's a typical Kasparovian move... |
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Nov-17-04
| | IMlday: Given maximal choice Bareyev analyses them all, chooses randomly 23..f6?! and then doesn't have enough clock time at move ..38 to find the obvious 'counting' variation. |
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| Jan-02-05 | | aw1988: I will refrain from posting any analysis on this page since the members of chessgames have bullet fingers. |
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| Sep-14-05 | | Sacred Knight: <crepo> Yes, it seems that some players (top GMs!) are beaten badly by Kasparov, having a very negative score. I wonder why? |
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| Sep-14-05 | | Sacred Knight: Bareev lost almost all games with the french against Garry, this time, he tried a Caro-kann, but also failed. |
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Sep-12-07
 | | Mateo: <23.Nd6 f6? But this move turns the tables! “I don’t like this move structurally,” said Kasparov. Black should have played 23...Bxd6! After the exchange of queens he would block White’s passed pawn and start playing for a win. White’s chances for survival were considerable, but a draw was not guaranteed.> Kasparov meant 23...Bxd6 24.Qxc6 bxc6 25.exd6. But is far from obvious that Black has some advantage. |
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| Jul-26-08 | | kmgopinath: what happens on 15...Nxc5 instead of 15....Nxe5 |
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| Oct-05-18 | | sakredkow: 15...Nxc5 has been played before and it appears to be a little less disruptive and a little more drawish than 15...Nxe5. |
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| Jul-12-19 | | Alibaba2007: cxd4 14. Ng6 fxg6 15. Qxg6+ Ke7 16. Bb4+ and wins |
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