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Carsten Hoi vs Magnus Carlsen
Troll Masters (2002), Gausdal NOR, rd 4, Jan-07
Indian Game: Yusupov-Rubinstein System (A46)  ·  1-0

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May-13-06  MagnaPsygnosis: Poor Kid, reality is going to hit him hard someday when he grows up......if he grows up
May-13-06  whatthefat: <Magna>
If you're trying to be funny, you're failing appallingly. And if you're not trying to be funny, I pity you.
May-13-06  LoFarkas: MagnaPsychotic: The fact that the game is from the Troll Masters tournament of 2002 doesn't mean that we want you trolling here.

May-14-06  MagnaPsygnosis: <whatthefat> <lofarkas> Nobody is as blind as those who doesnt want to see..... And <lofarkas> if u wanna put me in the light of these mystical babarian creatures, please get the rank right... its "Troll-Chieftan"

...not as much as I pity the likes of you <whatthefat>

I'll leave this discussion here...for now

May-19-06  Chess Classics: <MagnaPsygnosis> Might I remind you that Magnus was 12(!) when this game was played. HE IS IN THE TOP 25 PLAYERS IN THE WORLD. HE IS IN THE CANIDATES MATCHES! If he learns some 2700 level openings, he could enter the worlds top ten. But go ahead, don't listen.

Regards,
CC

May-19-06  MagnaPsygnosis: <chess classics>
Can we please change the topic from "carlsen" to something else...nobody is getting anywhere...
May-19-06  ganstaman: <MagnaPsygnosis: <chess classics> Can we please change the topic from "carlsen" to something else...nobody is getting anywhere...>

Yes, let's change the topic to Ruffian's performance! Please, tell me how it did, and then tell me again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again....

May-19-06  MagnaPsygnosis: Geesh gangstaman..... I told u about a 100 times..... or cant you remember something longer than 10 secs....

Oh I get it... u r one of those guys that thought that Pharaon 3.3 is the strongest engine in the world....shame

May-19-06  MagnaPsygnosis: Does anybody know where I can download Rybka except Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit
May-19-06  Chess Classics: <MagnaPsygnosis> Err, nowhere legal that I know of. It's not freeware.

Regards,
CC

May-19-06  MagnaPsygnosis: <chess classics>
aaah ...Thanks anyway

The beta version seems to be strong enough at this stage ... but i will have to use Fritz for deep analysis (to keep trashing my opponents that is)

How does Deep shredder compare??

Jan-24-10  jmboutiere: Dear MagnaPsygnosis
Last summer Carlsen visited China. It was like a pearl in the spring , 6 out of 8 Best whishes
May-21-18  Sergash: Magnus was 11 years old at the time of this game, as this was played on January 7 2002 and Carlsen is Born on November 30 1990. A primary school kid rated about 2130, Expert level, kind of already a candidate master is not so common!

Carsten Hoi, a Danish player born in 1957, was a grandmaster since the previous year 2001. Before that he had earned the International master title in 1979.

<2...e6> Interesting to note that, according to my knowledge, Carlsen had never played this move before that game, having played either 2...d5, 2...d6 or 2...c5.

<3.e3> Probably not the best way to get out of the opening with some advantage. For that, maybe better to play 3.c4 or 3.Bf4.

<5...c5 6.c4!> The most played move in that position, though it is possible that 5...d5 or 5...Be7 were a little bit better, but this has to be proven...

<7...d5?! 8.cxd5!> Here, the main line goes like 7...cxd4! 8.exd4 (or 8.Nxd4 Nc6! 9.Nxc6 dxc6!= Ernst Wilhelm - Erich Gottlieb Elikases, Leste Swinemuende (Polland) 1936, round 5, 0-1) d5= Herbert Heinicke - Heinz Lehmann, Berlin (Germany) 1940, round 8, draw.

<8...exd5> The recapture with the knight is also very playable.

<9.b3 0-0 ⩲> Tactical subtleties here: 9.Bb5+! Nbd7! ⩲ Knud Klausen - Reinhard Kehl, 2nd BCA Blind Olympiad 1964, round 7.2 - Denmark (blind) vs East Germany (blind), draw; 9...Bc6 was also tried, but after 10.Qa4! Bxb5! 11.Qxb5+ Nbd7 ⩲/ ± Sejer Holm - Grabler, 6th Memorial Schlechter (Austria) 1971, round 2, 1-0.

<11.Qe2> The most played move here, and possibly maintaining a small advantage for White, has been 11.Rc1=/ ⩲ (Lipschutz vs Showalter, 1892)

May-21-18  Sergash: <11...Re8> Interesting is 11...a6!= transposing into J C Rosenthal vs N Banks, 1916

<12.Rfd1=> After Carlsen's 11...Re8, Hoi could have played 12.Ba6! Bxa6 (or 12...Qc8 13.Bxb7 Qxb7 14.Rfd1 ⩲ Helmut Schoeffler (2047) - Rainer Zoellner (1729), Berlin Open (Germany) 2006, round 4, 1-0) 13.Qxa6=/ ⩲ H Mueller vs Pirc, 1950

<12...Nf8?! 13.Rac1 Ne6 14.Bb5! Re8 15.Ba6 ⩲> Nice maneuver by Hoi, exploiting the black knight travel from d7 to e6 to seize initiative. Black could have simply played either A) 12...Bd6= Zsuzsa Polgar vs La Orden J, 1993 or, for the same reasons previously given B) 12...a6= V Tarasov vs Zamikhovsky, 1949

<16.Bxb7 Qxb7 17.dxc5 bxc5=> This bishop trade is not to be commended. 16.Bd3! Qe8! ⩲ Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

<19...Rfd8 20.Ne5! ⩲> There was the interesting 19...Rfb8! 20.Bxf6! Bxf6▢ 21.Nc3 d4 22.exd4 Bxd4!= Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

<20...a6 21.Nc3 ⩲> Better is 20...Bf8! 22.Nc6! Rd7▢ 23.Bxf6! gxf6 ⩲ Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

May-23-18  Sergash: <21...Rac8 22.Na4! Kf8! ±> 21...d4! 22.exd4 Rxd4 ⩲/ ± Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

<24.Ke2> Interesting is here : 24.Bc3! ΔBa5. Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

<24...h5> For some reason, Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT prefers 24...g6!? here. Maybe for the g7 pawn not to become a target, were the knight on f6 to leave?

<25...Ng5?!> Better is 25...g6 ± awaiting White's operations.

<26.Bc3> Even stronger was 26.f4! Ne6 27.Nf3 ± Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT. Despite not having done any serious mistake or blunder, Carlsen finds himself already in big trouble...

<26...Rd6?! 27.Bd4!+-> Surprise! Carlsen could have played 26...Nge4! 27.Be1! Bd6 28.f4 ± which would have been consistent with 25...Ng5. Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

<28...c4?! 29.Nf4! Rec6 30.Nb6! Rd8 31.Bxf6! Bxf6 32.Nbxd5+-> The best hope rested in 28...Nge4 29.Nf4! Rec6 30.Bxf6! Nxf6 31.Nxd5 Nxd5 32.Rxd5+- Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

Now the ship is sinking...

<34.Rxc4 Rxc4 35.bxc4 Rxc4 36.Nxh5+-> Even stronger is 34.Nxh5! cxb3 35.Rxc6 Rxc6 36.axb3+- Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

May-23-18  Sergash: <36...Ne4?!> Threat: Ne4-c3+. At this stage, Black has nothing to lose by falling for such threats. Else, he would possibly have played 36...Ke7. Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

<37.f3 Nc3+ 38.Kd3> Also winning, but stronger was the simple 37.Rd4! Rxd4 (or 37...Nc3+ 38.Kd3 Rc5 39.Nxf6+ Ke7 40.Rc4!+- Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT) 38.exd4+- with an easy win. Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

<38...Nxd1 39.Kxc4 Nxe3+ 40.Kc5 Nxg2+-> Carlsen has seemingly restored material balance, but it is only temporary and he is still lost. It was also possible to keep the rook in play: 38...Rc6 39.Rc1 (or 39.Nxf6++- Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT) Nxa2 40.Rxc6 Nb4+ 41.Kc3 Nxc6 42.Nxf6++- Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

<42.f4 Nd3 43.a4!> The game would have ended quicker with 42.Kxa6 Nxf3 43.a4 etc. Stockfish 9 - 64 bits POPCNT.

To me, this game illustrates the gap that still separated Carlsen and the grandmaster level, or how the cream of the amateur players compare with the grandmasters.

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