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Apr-13-05 | | WorldChampeen: Annotations of epic proportions |
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Apr-15-05 | | valerianus: <WorldChampeen> If you would like to see another game whose notes were translated (but not written) by Hwang, feel free to see the following game of mine: Andrew West vs Junghye Kang, 2005 I must almost point out, however, that Hwang made a few tiny mistakes in annotating this game (Hwang-Kim), which she corrected in a revised edition of her DCC publication, "The Seongeup Village vs. Douglaston Village Summit, 2005." I will not waste space by putting her full (corrected) move-by-move analysis here; the changes are cosmetic and her comments on the Q+2P versus Q remain unchanged. What did change, however, was the following: After move 16 for White, Hwang proposed the following correction: "At this point the both of us had consumed about five minutes of our time. Perhaps my pawn nudge was superfluous but I did not want to see 16...Ng4. Now I get to double Rooks on the d-file, a possibility that was slowed down by my somewhat laborious 19. Qd4?!." After move 19 for White, Hwang proposed the following correction: "This move lacked purpose and only invites Black's later Rook shift to c4. 19. Rd2 was decidedly superior." After move 22 for Black, Hwang proposed the following correction: "I found this move rather astonishing. Kim is essentially saying “pass” but I don't think she is conveying her wish constructively. If she had played 22...Rc4, I probably would have gone for the draw with 23. Qa7 rather than sit tight with 23. Qd3. I guess I really was scared over what this Korean monster could conjure up!" After move 24 for Black, Hwang proposed the following correction: "Black simply overlooked White's next move, but then again her d-pawn is no asset and I am not sure she wanted her entire army stuck defending it." After move 29 for White, Hwang proposed the following correction: "In fact, 29...Qxb2 is dubious because of 30. Rd8+ Kh7 31. Qxf7 Qe5 32. g4 Rc6 33. Re8 and Black looks none too happy." |
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Apr-15-05 | | mellow: "I guess I really was scared over what this Korean monster could conjure up!" LOL...I lived in Seoul for two years. Word to the wise, don't bend over near the chess board or, DDONG CHIM baby!!!! http://www.landoftheanxiousdog.com/... |
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Apr-15-05 | | Shams: "The student should give serious
thought to White's thirty-ninth to fifty-first moves""White's maneuvers from moves 30 to 36 deserve careful study" 2200 is a fine mark to reach but this player seems awfully impressed with her own technique. |
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Apr-15-05 | | mellow: You're ESL soldier too I see Shams. How is Japan treatin ya? |
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Apr-15-05 | | Shams: haha, I was just checking out your website. sounds nasty. I only taught adults. I'm actually back in the states now...got back two weeks ago today. guess I should update my profile. I hit Seoul once for a few days on the visa run. seems like a cool city. not a place to fly your yankee colors though. |
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Apr-15-05 | | semesterian: I admit that I have had a crush on Miss Hwang since she was eight years old. In a 1993 DCC tournament, she once went up to me (I was then the Undersecretarial Deputy Secretary of the DCC) and asked me for candy. When I gave her my sugar roll, she smiled and hugged me. And my age is greater than hers by a multiple of...well, I won't tell you. |
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Apr-15-05 | | semesterian: http://www.serebella.com/encycloped... |
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Apr-15-05 | | Shams: <valeranius> I played through that other game you posted. That has to be the only time in history that somebody has put this sentence in a chess annotation: "Mr. West resigned. During the postmortem, he was very nice
to me and he offered me candy."
this is titillating indeed! what kind of candy did you offer her? did she accept? was it because she was a woman? or Korean? or because she beat you? would you have offered her candy if you had won? have you ever offered an opponent candy after the match before? do you think it's appropriate for an arbiter to offer candy to a player, even if said arbiter is only playing that day, and not judging? what if at some future point you were accused of favortism, and the accuser were able to adduce witnesses to testify that on another occassion, you had given candy to the player in question? did you ever think about that? |
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Apr-15-05 | | mellow: That's not my blog or website. I did teach ESL to children in South Korea for two years. I was more into Soju than websites. |
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Apr-15-05 | | valerianus: <Shams> I am retiring soon but I have time to answer your question. Maybe my comment doesn't belong here, but in the West-Kang game. I offered her candy after the game, so I'm sure I wasn't stepping on any heels. Junghye Kang, though, was an extremely beautiful woman. The Seongeup Chess Society's finest players have a notorious fondness for candy. If anything, I gave Miss Kang my address and she still asks me for candy from time to time... |
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Apr-15-05 | | Shams: <semesterian> that biography you linked to MUST be satire. "In a clocked simultaneous exhibition against ten of Douglaston?s finest players (aside from Wong) in 1996, she was an hour late because she had been baking croissants for the players." ...
"Renown for her politeness, Hwang offers draws to opponents who appear tired or ill during tournaments, a courtesy she has extended to Wong on a few occasions. She always leaves the table after every move she makes to leave her opponents undistracted by her presence, usually returning with drinks or handmade sandwiches for her rivals." "A consummate expert in etiquette, Hwang curtsies to anyone she sees and her tastes in fashion reflect nothing but baroque tendencies" I've read everything now...sweet mother of God. Does she heal lepers too? |
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Apr-15-05 | | Shams: <valeranius> I was joking, but also partly curious so thanks for your answer. :) |
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Apr-15-05 | | semesterian: <Shams> I don't think so. As the Deputy Secretary of the Douglaston Chess Congres of which she is a member, I can attest to that and more. It's nothing miraculous and she just happens to be a very nice person. Her biggest weakness is obvious: she can't say no. And by the way, if anyone knows who was on the committee that wrote her first official biography in 1991 (before my active involvement), please tell me; I'll be in the QBPL Douglaston Branch tomorrow from two to five--I think I'll begin my queries there. |
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Apr-15-05 | | Shams: still, the curtseying? don't you think that is laying it on a bit thick? you must admit it reads a TAD over the top.
at any rate, I'm sure she is a wonderful person and obviously she has loads of talent. no disrepect to anyone intended, and I'll move on now. let me know when you're passing out candy next. goodnight |
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Apr-15-05 | | semesterian: <mellow> What is Seoul like? I'm sorry if my kibitzing is slow--I'm Andrew West's (valerianus) cousin and we are "fighting" for possession of the same computer as I eat dinner in his house. =) |
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Apr-15-05 | | aw1988: These notes I might just take as a joke like Nimzowitsch vs Systemsson if I was unaware this was a serious game. I can't believe a draw offer was made on every single move until the novelty, and all the queen lines that black saw, and the time spent... this game is almost too crazy to be true. Absolutely brilliant. Fine job. |
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Apr-16-05 | | SBC: I love Ms. Hwang's annotations!!!
<59. Qe3 Qe6
Kim played this move immediately. As a matter of fact, Kim would only consume five minutes for her fifty-ninth through one-hundred-and-twentieth moves (!!). This was really not cool and I resented having to play against “Miss Endgame Perfection.”> I guess the same reasoning went into the repetitive draw offers by Hwang in the opening as went into the failure by Kim to resign even when K+Q vs K. After having read her bio, I think Lauren Hwang could easily become my favorite chess player. One peripheral thing I found interesting was something mentioned in the introduction to the actual annotations: <As anyone from the Korean chess school of thought will tell you, Korean chess players, especially girls, will only play “conventional openings” (i.e., the Ruy Lopez and not the Damiano Defense). It conforms to notions of Confucian duties and an adherence to principles of “virtuous obedience” as opposed to “innovative individualism.” I felt that the romantically inclined chess styles of Estrus, West, and Roberts had absolutely no chances against their respective opponents. The next day, the girls punctually arrived at the park. I was quite shocked! They emerged from a limousine, were extraordinarily well-dressed, and had personal servants, as if their stunning looks and ultra-trim figures weren't enough. Estrus, West, Roberts, and I crammed ourselves in a taxicab to save money (!). I was wondering whether these people really came from Seongeup Village, a tourist attraction in Korea renown for its thatched huts and villagers.> I don't know if it's still true, but up to a couple years ago, I know Japan had no chess GM. This always seemed a little incongruous to me and I had no thought how to explain it. But here Hwang mentions <Confucian duties and an adherence to principles of “virtuous obedience” as opposed to “innovative individualism.”> While I don't want to start a discussion on comparative religions, Buddhism, Shintoism and Confusiansm pervade much of the oriental culture. Can it be that religions so influence a cultures philosophical mindset as to make certain activities unlikely? And if chess, virtually had no chance in Korea and Japan, why is it played so strongly in China? And why is Go so popular (if that's the case) in Japan but not Chess? |
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Apr-16-05 | | mellow: Seoul was interesting. It's very user friendly for foreigners. There are lots of English/Chinese & Japanese signs. The Korean Language is pretty easy to learn to read too, which helps. The Seoul subway system kicks ass! There were lots of western conveniences, in some ways it was more convenient than small town Canada. Having said that, it was dirty, crowded and lacked any sort of connection to the earth. It's a big city and I suppose that's what most big cities are like.
I was running around with a bunch of crazy Ex-pats so perhaps my experiences are a lil tainted and clouded by booze. If you ever get the chance... try the Kimchi! |
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Apr-18-05 | | Shams: <SBC> Go is not popular in Japan, not at all. Neither is Shogi (Japanese chess). Ask anyone and they will laugh and say such games are for bored old men in the park. Japanese gaming begins and ends with video games. And incidentally, the overwhelming majority of Japanese people are also bored with religion. They may be nominally Buddhist (Shinto is not a religion, really, but let's not go there) but you can't really trace much in the way of their attitudes and behaviors to religious beliefs. At least, that was my observation. |
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Apr-18-05 | | zsystriker: <Shams> True. Neither Go nor Shogi is popular in Japan, however top Go and Shogi professionals in Japan make much more money than their western chess counterparts... Even top amateurs make more money. The annual tournaments sponsored by the major newpapers pay in millions. Both Go and Shogi are elitist entertainment as is chess in the west (sad but true). |
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Apr-22-05 | | fgh: Great game and annotations! Brilliant stuff! |
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Apr-22-05 | | fgh: This is a very impressive endgame, especially if black saw all those lines ahead. |
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Apr-24-05 | | SBC: <Shams>
Thanks for your perspective on Japan. Often times personal obsevation is far more accurate than the media or even books for a variety of reasons. So, it would be safer to say that games such as Go and Shogi are only more popular than Chess but still, as <zsystriker> put it, elitist. The religion aspect is a little different, I think. Whether one (or no one or everyone) believes or follows the tenets of any particular religion doesn't necessarily affect that religion's cultural influence in a broader sense. If no one in America practiced or even truly believed in Christianity, America would still be a Christo-centric culture and the effects of Christianity would be strong even centuries from now. Religion is like a fianchettoed bishop, tucked away, almost unnoticed, controlling things from a distance. Anyway, thanks for your input on this. It gives me something more to think about. |
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Apr-24-05 | | WorldChampeen: <valerianus> Thanks, I have bookmarked all of these games. |
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