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Viswanathan Anand vs Michael Adams
Linares (2005), Linares ESP, rd 14, Mar-10
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Check Variation Intermezzo Line (E15)  ·  0-1



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Mar-14-05  me to play: cu8sfan, I agree,it is a good site. The ignore button is handy...the fact that I seem to need it so often is unfortunate.
Mar-14-05  Rocafella: i dont wanna sound dumb but i probably will, but how do u go about getting an offical rating
Mar-14-05  Rocafella: anybody :(
Mar-14-05  Chris00nj: <Rocafella: i dont wanna sound dumb but i probably will, but how do u go about getting an offical rating >

You have to play in rated events. If you live in the US, try searching here for events:

If you live in a larger city, they may have a chess club (try a google search) that holds smaller rated events that are not listed in the link.

Mar-14-05  Chris00nj: Oh and you'll get a better response if you post a question like this in the Kibitizer's cafe section, not a specific game, which is designed to comment on the game only.
Mar-14-05  Rocafella: <chris00nj> thanks a lot, i'll have to do the search coz i live in england. Yeh your probably right about the cafĂ© but, im new here so like i say, im dumb lol :), and im only 14... kids these days ;)
Mar-14-05  Chris00nj: <Rocafella> Well welcome to chess. You live in England which is good because chess is much more popular than in the US per capita.

I played in Scotland for a while, up in Aberdeen, but the Scots have their own seperate chess assosciation from the English. Here's the English main website:

Mar-14-05  iron maiden: <kasparovisking>, LOL.

<shortsight> You have the right to hold your opinion, and I have the right to hold mine. Sure we can debate them, but we're really going to get nowhere, especially if you persist in making statements like <there's nothing you can do other than whining in this site. i really pity you.> after your arguments have been refuted. So I'm going to terminate this off-topic discussion. You may post whatever you like on the matter, but I will withhold my participation out of respect for Mickey Adams, <Phoenix>, <me to play>, and others in this community who are doubtless tired of these kinds of dogmatic debates.

Mar-14-05  THE pawn: <for people like michael schmacher in f1 and kasparov in chess, what makes the headlines is when they lose, and not when they win - but they are the best and will ermain (schumi in presen generation in his field and kasparov across all generations in his field) dont act kiddish now, and lets face it - KASPAROV WAS KING - IS KING - WILL ALWAYS REMAIN KING, even after his retirement!>

Well, I don't wanna change the subject and bring angriness on me, like some kibitzers seem to use as a hobby. Anyway, Shumacher is not the best in F1, it's all about the car and he's been a bad loser/winner. I still remember in 1997 when it was the last race for the champ between him and Villeneuve and He was not fast enough ( not good enough also) to match Villeneuve's speed and was about to get shifted to his right and then he tried to push Villeneuve out of the race with his own ferrari...but it didn't work! What a l-o-s-e-r... and Villeneuve won the championship. That said, you cannot compare Kasparov, a winner and Shumacher, a good racer, but nothing more , whom the circumstances put him at the top of his category. Kasparov is a genius and he used his brain...Shumacher had the help of a good car, which probably no one else in F1 had...

Mar-14-05  shortsight: <iron maiden> i don't see how you've refuted mine. you by saying so doesn't mean you've did just that.
Mar-14-05  shortsight: <THE pawn> i agree with you. schumacher in 95 crashed his car to Damon Hill while leading 1 point in the final race to emerged winner. later on in 96, Hill retaliated in the final race to win the championship. Then, in 97, schumacher tried the same tactic again against villineuve but retired his car instead. all in all, schumacher is good, but not good enough. he simply has faster car, and extreme good luck, and more often than not, has track marshall pushing his car in the gravel, which did not happen to other drivers.
Mar-14-05  iron maiden: <shortsight> I meant the argument that Kramnik was my idol. Certainly your opinion on Kasparov's retirement remains valid, as does mine. BTW, Schumi rammed Hill off the track to take the championship in '94, not '95. ;-)
Mar-14-05  THE pawn: < in '94, not '95>

doesn't change the fact that He is probably the most overated driver of the actual F1.

Say, it has no link with Anand vs Adams...

Mar-14-05  iron maiden: <THE pawn> I don't know. None of us will know for sure until we see Raikonnen, Button or Alonso in the second Ferrari. And I'd say Villenuve is definitely more overrated than Schumi.

Getting back to the game, 24. bxa4 was definitely an error, but does White really have anything after 24. Rxa4?

Mar-14-05  shortsight: <iron maiden> okay, so we stand firm on our own grounds. lines drawn, and that's it.
May-30-05  SnoopDogg: <Kasparov's hurting himself more than anyone, since he'll go down in history as a man who was unwilling to face the bad side of his career.>

Boy does this comment now seem stupid. Can somebody say Linares 2005?

May-30-05  square dance: <snoopdogg> that comment was made after kasparov announced his retirement at the end of linares 2005. i dont get what point you're trying to make. actually, in reply to what you just said, i might say something like: <Boy does this comment now seem stupid.>
Aug-08-06  positionalgenius: Topalov won Linares,for all practical purposes.Wins with black override head-to-head?How stupid.Linares turned into Kasparov's playground in the later years-Kasparov wanted 7 players so he could have two rest days.Bingo!Done.Thats why Kramnik and Anand avoid it most years-Anand goes to Corus and Kramnik hits Dortmund.
Feb-17-08  percyblakeney: <Kasparov wanted 7 players so he could have two rest days.Bingo!Done.Thats why Kramnik and Anand avoid it most years>

I'm not sure how true that is, Anand participated in 4 of the 5 seven player Linares, Kramnik in 3 of 5.

In the Linares tournaments with an even number of players (6 or 8) that have been arranged after year 2000 Anand has participated 2 of 4 times, Kramnik 0 of 4.

Feb-20-08  positionalgenius: <Percy> Its very true. After kasparov retired the number of players went back to 8.
Feb-23-08  percyblakeney: <Its very true>

Blaming Kasparov for Anand's and Kramnik's avoiding Linares most years seems harsh since Anand didn't and doesn't avoid Linares, while Kramnik started avoiding it the last years.

The seven player Linares was a fairly late thing, by the way, only one of those before 2002 (Anand's first win, in 1998).

Feb-23-08  positionalgenius: <Percy> However Linares was "kasparov's tournament". They named the playing hall after him shortly after he retired! In general Corus seems to be Anand's tournament and Dortmund is kramnik's.
Feb-23-08  percyblakeney: <positionalgenius> Agreed, Linares is Kasparov's tournament, Corus is Anand's and Dortmund Kramnik's (apart from the years when Kasparov played in these tournaments). One could also add Biel as Moro's tournament, and Sofia as Topalov's.
Feb-23-08  positionalgenius: <Percy> Yes. Topalov keeps pulling of miracles to win mtel masters...
Aug-15-08  Brown: <offramp: <fgh: <offramp>, of course he means only the posts at this page.>

<I am not so sure. I understood it that <PinkPanther> wanted all posts about all games at <> deleted so as to highlight the importance of this game.>

Offramp! This line of yours made me laugh harder than I have in some time. Just hit me the right way. It's been years since you posted it, but thank you anyway!

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