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Wilhelm Steinitz vs NN
Unknown (1860)
Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Steinitz Gambit Knight Variation (C25)  ·  1-0

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Nov-27-05  popski: Known theme, but excellent execution!
Dec-01-05  yuvalset: The lesson: if you're unknown, don't play Steinitz
Jan-09-06  Bobak Zahmat: Certaintly if your unknown you should follow the basic rules of chess: don't move a piece twice in the opening, unless the advantage will be sufficient enough.
Jan-12-06  itz2000: Awsome! lol
Sep-11-06  AbhinavAsthana: Is it necessary to play 8.♔f8
Sep-11-06  hellstrafer: I don't see the point behind 8.Kf8 either. I guess he moved the king in order to save the knight from the pin and attack the white knight, which in my opinion is a bad idea.
Sep-11-06  AbhinavAsthana: I agree with you
Nov-14-07
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  playground player: Bxd1--sucker-punch!
Sep-04-09
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  OBIT: Tartakower's comment for 8. Kf8 is "preparing for - a miscalculation?" heh, heh. Naturally, this makes 9. Ne5 the only consistent follow-up. :)
Jun-13-12  LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:

Steinitz vs NN, 1860.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF STEINITZ.
Your score: 21 (par = 16)

LTJ

Jan-26-14  CblP: Guys, tell me pls, why 8... Kf8?
Jan-26-14
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  offramp: After 8.Bb5:


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Black here had a devastating idea. If she could play ...Ne5 then she would be threatening the very powerful ...BxNf3 followed by ...Qh4+ which wins the knight on f4.

But she can't play ...Ne5 owing to the pin by the Bb5 on the king. Knowing NN, I'll bet she actually tried to play 8...Ne5 and someone had to tell her the knight couldn't move.

NN's solution is simplicity itself. She moves her king out of the pin! 8...Kf8!

As we now know, NN lives her life backwards, like Dr Who. She was doubtless aware of the game Kamsky vs Karpov, 1993 where in this position


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Karpov played the surprising 11...Ke7.


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...and won.

Feb-24-14  Wyatt Gwyon: Looks like a Greco game.
Jan-09-15  welhelm1982: the only question her how did mr offramp know that nn is "she"?????!!!!!
Dec-29-17  MariusDaniel: Nice skill!
Mar-22-18
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  offramp: Is this a double mate?
Nov-30-19
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  sea7kenp: Double your Pleasure, Double your Check!
Sep-30-20  talhal20: Looks like framed / constructed game.

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