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| Aug-08-06 | | Marvol: Wolf sees he's going to lose, gives one final spite check and prepares to shake hands... ... when he suddenly notices in amazement how his opponent turns white, then purple, then starts to bang his head on the table, crashing all the pieces onto the floor. |
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Aug-08-06
 | | Honza Cervenka: <WarmasterKron> It happens sometimes to everybody. See poor Carl Schlechter...:-D |
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Aug-08-06
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <OhioChessFan: Surely White saw the stalemate before capturing the Rook. Was it a spite capture?> Schlecter may have found it more acceptable psychologically to complete the stalemate by playing on the board the only legal move, rather than verbally agree a draw with Wolf, who I have heard was a somewhat abrasive personality. |
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Aug-08-06
| | Peligroso Patzer: It's rather surprising that Schlecter fell into this. 55. Kf1 seems the best way for him to have avoided the stalemate trap, since it only works if Black can sacrifice his Rook on e1 with White being FORCED TO CAPTURE WITH HIS ROOK. After 55. Kf1, Black might as well still try 55. ... Re1+ (hoping desperately for 56. Rxe1, stalemate) but after 56. Kxe1, the Black King would have three legal moves. |
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Aug-08-06
| | Peligroso Patzer: The last puzzle I can remember with a drawing solution was this game (from the position with White to play his 60th move): Janowski vs Gruenfeld, 1925
It is another good puzzle on a similar theme. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | Chess Lou Zer: Even I thought this one was easy. |
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Aug-08-06
 | | Phony Benoni: "With Schlechter, I make a draw when I want to, not when he wants to!"--H. Wolf |
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| Aug-08-06 | | Halldor: Black to play - in a hopeless position, so stalemate must be the solution. Easy to find but very nice puzzle. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | Castle In The Sky: Draw problems are among my favorites. It is like playing loser's chess, where you force an opponent to take your pieces to achieve victory. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | YouRang: Good puzzle. I actually spent a moment wondering if Black was supposed to win, lol (only because draw problems are rare here). Once I satisfied myself that Black should be thankful for a draw, I found it quickly. I agree that White should have been more suspicious, particularly after 54...Re3. Time to ask: "why is he still playing?". |
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| Aug-08-06 | | YouRang: <Peligroso Patzer> Oh yes, I recall the Janowski vs Gruenfeld, 1925 game. That puzzle spurred a big debate about stalemate (some people argued that stalemate should be considered a win). |
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| Aug-08-06 | | statisticsman: Of course!!! I was too busy racking my brain for a victory, not seeing that the goal was not to lose. Beautiful forced stalemate. |
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Aug-08-06
 | | gawain: Spent a few minutes looking for Black's win, then saw the stalemate. I enjoyed the irony of the "drawing master" becoming the victim. I once read somewhere that Schlechter's drawing reputation is undeserved. Can any of you shed light on this? |
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Aug-08-06
| | gawain: To start an answer to my own question. Perhaps the ratio of draws to wins is a good measure. Schlechter in the Chessgames database: 368 draws, 265 wins, ratio 1.25. Wolf, his opponent: 1.18. Rubinstein, 0,71. Capablanca, 0.75. Lasker 0.44
By comparison to his more illustrious contemporaries, Schlechter is very drawish. But then Kramnik comes in at 1.53, Leko at 2.06. What to make of this? Topalov 483 draws, 393 wins, ratio is 1.22 almost identical to Schlechter's. Kasparov? 0.97.
[I suppose I should submit this query to the Schlechter page for continuation of this thread. Will do so.] |
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| Aug-08-06 | | THE pawn: Kind of obvious. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | kevin86: Stalemate trap!! ooooooooooooooo
Missed it,darn! I thought it was a magic setup where white couldn't win in position that looked impossible not to. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | YouRang: <gawain> Interesting. I would propose, however, that it may be unfair to compare drawing ratios of masters across generations, because of changes in the quality of chess being played. Better, perhaps, is to compute a 'drawing index', or ratio of ratios, computed by taking the <drawing ratio of player X> divided by the <average drawing ratio of the contemporaries of player X>. You might find that Schlecter's 'drawing index' is similar to Leko's -- because the average drawing ratio is higher today that it was in Schecter's day. Of course, coming up with the average drawing ratio of a player's contemporaries is tricky. |
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Aug-08-06
| | Peligroso Patzer: <Phony Benoni: "With Schlechter, I make a draw when I want to, not when he wants to!"--H. Wolf> LOL For those who may not be familair with the allusion behind your "phony quote", the note to Black's 31st move in the following game provides the reference: H Wolf vs Rubinstein, 1907 |
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Aug-08-06
| | Honza Cervenka: Here is another puzzle.:-)
White to move:
click for larger viewThe solution see at W Wittmann vs A Rodriguez, 1980 |
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| Aug-08-06 | | dr.roho: <honza cervenka> um i thought rd2 would be white's final chance to survive because if he doesnt than it will be mate next move. than i looked at the game and i found this is the final position. white resigned. what is the answer to this? And what does your name mean? |
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Aug-08-06
| | Peligroso Patzer: <dr.roho:> The drawing resource that White missed is analyzed in comments to the referened game ( W Wittmann vs A Rodriguez, 1980 ) previously posted by <Honza Cervenka> on Aug-06-04. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | cuendillar: That one was a little trickier: 1.Rxb3+ Kxa2 2.Ra3+ (Kxa3 3.Qd3+) stalemates, does it not? |
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| Aug-08-06 | | sataranj: this is the first time i have come accross a draw problem in chessgames and quite inevitably missed it... |
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| Aug-08-06 | | dakgootje: Yes simple puzzle, if you didnt see the move at first glace you could also have looked at around all moves, which werent too many in this case, and looked at all of them whether they would do something. |
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| Aug-08-06 | | Fezzik: The old advice:
When everything else is impossible, the only solution left, however improbable, must be true works here.
It's a shame Schlechter missed this tactic. It makes this game feel a bit like one of many blitz games found on the internet. |
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