Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Vasyl Ivanchuk vs Sergey Volkov
European Club Cup (2005), Saint Vincent ITA, rd 6, Sep-23
French Defense: Classical. Burn Variation Morozevich Line (C11)  ·  1-0



Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 8 times; par: 61 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 2 more Ivanchuk/S Volkov games
sac: 14.dxe6 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.


Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Nov-07-05  aragorn69: Spending 30 odd hours on this game (with the help of Fritz!) and not seeing (look in the box!) 30.Qb5 Kf7? 31.Rxc6! is a waste of time. <AJ> unfortunately never ceases to create ways to get ridiculed. He should (honestly!) seek treatment for his masochistic impulses.
Nov-07-05  LIFE Master AJ: I also don't consider it that big a deal. As I said previously, to wait a move or two, and then play the same moves - but with a different move order - is called a transposition.

IF - and when - a titled player says that Kg2 was incorrect, then I would be willing to look at it again, right now I consider it a completely useless and moot point.

How about aksing Ray Keene to look at it? I value his opinion.

Nov-07-05  KingG: <LMAJ> Why don't you ask one of your many chess engines to look at it? I can't believe you think there is a transposition. Give some lines to show the transposition. Or even better, show how the line i gave doesn't lead to a winning position.
Nov-07-05  aragorn69: Sigh, sigh. There is no question of transposition in <KingG>'s analysis (as he expressly stated himself). The question is not about the respective merits of 30.Kg2 / 30.Qb5, but your suggestion of 30.-Kf7 (after 30.Qb5) which, until you prove otherwise, is a bad blunder. Try reasoning about facts, please.
Nov-08-05  aragorn69: I, <use the same phrasing> as hayton3 ?? I only wish !!
Nov-09-05  aw1988: Anyway, getting back to the game, I will never have the guts to sacrifice the knight as is done here.
Dec-15-05  notyetagm: What a shame that someone (Ivanchuk) can play chess like this and will not be in the next World Championship cycle.
Dec-18-05  LIFE Master AJ: Just a final note ... I have gotten a good half-dozen e-mails ... and they all thought my analysis was superb.
Dec-18-05  you vs yourself: <chancho> I must admit that it was a very good game. But the analysis is priceless! <Ng5+!! What???> AJ's strength is probably(maybe?) his uncontrollable emotion!
Dec-18-05  TopaLove: I´d like to ask two questions about this game. First, why did White play 6.♗xf6 ? Second, why not 12 ... exd5 ?
Dec-19-05  notyetagm: <TopaLove> White plays 6 ♗xf6 because in the resulting position his e4-knight is the best minor piece on the board.
Dec-19-05  StraightLarsen: Interesting game....
Dec-25-05  LIFE Master AJ: This game is almost as complicated as Judit Polgar's game against Kasimdzhanov from the World Championship tournament in San Luis, ARG; 2005. (Judit Polgar vs Kasimdzhanov, 2005)
Dec-28-05  Whitehat1963: Ivanchuk is clearly one of the most entertaining players in the last 50 years!
Dec-28-05  syracrophy: 41...Nxf7 42.Rxf8+ Kg7 43.Rg8++ and 41...Qxf7 42.Nxf7 Kxf7 43.Rxf8+ and black's completely lost!
Feb-21-06  notyetagm: Anyone think this game will win the Best Game Prize for Chess Informant 94 when it is announced in April?
Jun-26-06  whatthefat: Wow, <KingG>'s utter obliteration of <LMAJ> was almost as entertaining as this incredible game! And without a doubt, sound.
Jun-26-06  KingG: I had almost completely forgotten about all this. The administrators seem to have deleted a few of the posts, so parts of my 'conversation' with <LMAJ> look a bit odd. The funny thing is, before he started attacking me on this page, i had nothing against him. But after this, i understood why 90% of users here are on his ignore list. All it takes is a polite disagreement for him to start verbally attacking you like a maniac.

Around the same time, we were analysing this game, Judit Polgar vs Kasimdzhanov, 2005, but that turned sour as well.

I hope AJ has sought out professional help since then, but i doubt it somehow.

Jun-26-06  The Zorro: That knight sacrifice was something!!

How to turn a boring french into a entertaining game.

May-30-08  whiteshark: With the experience of this game I think that <11...c5> was premature. Although the intention of attacking white's d4-pawn is strategically right, with hindsight, it only opened the position for white's better developed pieces.

So maybe <11...Qd6 12.Re1 b4> is a viable alternative.

May-30-08  whiteshark: Undiscovered territory is <26.Ng5>!

click for larger view

Actually it's <26.Ng5!! >, a sunday puzzle. Anticipate the worst! :D

Jan-13-09  WhiteRook48: this is an awesome game by Ivanchuk.
Jan-26-09  WhiteRook48: and great sacrifices
Feb-01-09  WhiteRook48: the last move was awesome and obvious
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: I think 30. Qb5 might be something like a Thursday/Friday level move, hardly hard to find. White playing Rb5 might be another improvement any number of times in the 30's. The Black Queen is a sitting duck.
Jump to page #    (enter # from 1 to 3)
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing>

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
  8. Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.

NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Best Chess Games of All Time
by Timothy Glenn Forney
from On the attack Timman by takchess
AdrianP's Bookmarked Games (2005)
by AdrianP
interesting games
by Rimrock
Brilliant long-term Knight sac by Chucky
from Mayhem, it's utter mayhem by Marvol
14.dxe6!! 41.Rf7!!
from EmperorAtahualpa's favorite games by EmperorAtahualpa
Positional knight sacrifice
from keypusher's bookmarked games by keypusher
Close to thirty hours - Starting on Page 1
from Apocalypse now - Chess, Controversy and charges by Karpova
Great Games: 1990-today
by ARubinstein
Vassily Ivanchuk's Best Games
by KingG
3...Nf6 4.Bg5 dxe4 5.Nxe4 Be7 6.Bxf6 gxf6 7.Nf3
from French 3.Nc3 by KingG
All systems 'go'.
from Concentration of Force by sevenseaman
Game 937
from # Chess Informant Best Games 901-1000 by Qindarka
koinonia's favorite games
by koinonia
Book of Samurai's favorite games
by Book of Samurai
Art of War's favorite games 3
by Art of War
Instructive Modern Chess Masterpieces ~ Stohl
by joneil2862
Ivanchuk 100 selected games-Kalinichenko's book
by Gottschalk
Game 60
from Modern Chess Masterpieces (Stohl) by Qindarka
Ivanchuk 100 selected games-Kalinichenko's book
from Father Rubin Burned Fort Knocks?! by fredthebear
plus 20 more collections (not shown)

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2023, Chessgames Services LLC