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______________ Moves Prediction Contest

<Main Focus>: Predicting how many moves in a game for each pairing.

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<Format>:

[player]-[player] [result] [# of MOVES]

==4 Different Scoring Methods==

Standard Moves Ranker (1st place-Over[3pts], 1st place-Under [7pts], Exact [10pts])

Bonus Ranker (3rd place-Over[1pts],2nd place-Over[2pts],3rd place-Under [5pts], 2nd place-Under [6pts]

Standard Moves/Bonus Ranker [Add all to together]

1st place Ranker [how many 1st place you have in Standard Moves Ranker]

For example:

<Note: Participants 3, 4, and 5 are predicated on nobody scoring an exact as Participant 2 did. If someone hits an exact, the closest score under and over will score the points for second place.>

Actual Game: [player]-[player] 0-1 45

Participant 1: [player]-[player] 1/2 45
Participant 2: [player]-[player] 0-1 45
Participant 3: [player]-[player] 0-1 44
Participant 4: [player]-[player] 0-1 43
Participant 5: [player]-[player] 0-1 46

Participant 1: No points even though 45 is correct. Results must be correct. If Result is wrong and moves # is correct...you get no points whatsoever

Participant 2: 10 pts rewarded for correct Result/moves #

Participant 3: 7 pts rewarded for closest under (1st-Under) to 45 moves

Participant 4: 6 pts rewarded for the 2nd closest under (2nd-Under) to 45 moves.

Participant 5: 3 pts rewarded closest OVER(1st-OVER) to 45 moves.

Again, the description of Participant 3, 4, and 5 are based on there being no exact prediction as made by Participant 2.

<IF> there is an exact or an under closest, the highest scoring over participant will be 2nd over. The second closest over will be 3rd over. The <ONLY> time there will be a first over is if there is no exact or under winner.

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OhioChessFan: The hard to spot 13. Qa1 is fine for White. Parking the Queen on c2 simply must be wrong, as it invites the simple Na6/b4, which Black wants to do anyway.
 
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Moves Prediction Contest

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 827 OF 827 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Sep-10-22  chessmoron: ♔ Sinquefield 2022 <Round 8> Result ♔

<Aronian-Nepo, 0-1 in 52 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['OhioChessFan', '0-1', '30']]

2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

===

<Dominguez-Mamedyarov, 1/2-1/2 in 85 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['whiteshark', '1/2-1/2', '50']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['chessmoron', '1/2-1/2', '43'], ['Firouzjias', '1/2-1/2', '43']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['Penguincw', '1/2-1/2', '42']]

2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

===

<Firouzja-So, 1-0 in 32 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: [['chessmoron', '1-0', '47']]
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

===

<Niemann-Caruana, 0-1 in 69 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['chessmoron', '0-1', '45'], ['whiteshark', '0-1', '45']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['Golden Executive', '0-1', '40']]

3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

Sep-11-22  chessmoron: Round 8 Summary:

Perfect # moves predictions for this round goes to

NONE

<EXTRA>

<<chessmoron>>♔ predicted with the most correct <RESULT> 3/4 is awarded 10 points.

Highest scores in the Bonus Ranker: 6 points: <chessmoron>, <Golden Executive> and <Firouzjias>

Results:

Moves Ranker - Through <Round 8>

Score, UserID, Over, Under, Exact

55, whiteshark, 1, 6, 1 ([1]10)
28, juan31, 0, 4, 0
27, chessmoron, 1, 2, 1 ([2]2+10)
24, Golden Executive, 0, 2, 1
24, OhioChessFan, 1, 3, 0
24, paavoh, 1, 3, 0 ([1]2)
24, Penguincw, 0, 2, 1 ([3]2+10+5)
21, Firouzjias, 0, 3, 0 ([1]5)
20, offramp, 1, 1, 1
17, WinKing, 0, 1, 1 ([1]2)
14, Messiah, 0, 2, 0 ([1]2)

===

Bonus Ranker - Through <Round 8>

Score, UserID, 3-Over, 2-Over, 3-Under, 2-Under

57, Penguincw, 3, 1, 2, 7
44, Golden Executive, 3, 3, 1, 5
34, Firouzjias, 0, 1, 4, 2
32, chessmoron, 2, 1, 2, 3
29, Messiah, 0, 3, 1, 3
26, WinKing, 1, 1, 1, 3
24, OhioChessFan, 0, 4, 2, 1
21, paavoh, 1, 4, 0, 2
19, offramp, 0, 1, 1, 2
15, whiteshark, 4, 3, 1, 0
12, juan31, 0, 3, 0, 1

===

Moves+Bonus Ranker - Through <Round 8>

Score, UserID

81, Penguincw
70, whiteshark
68, Golden Executive
59, chessmoron
55, Firouzjias
48, OhioChessFan
45, paavoh
43, Messiah
43, WinKing
40, juan31
39, offramp

===

Moves Ranker (# of 1st place UNDER/OVER) - Through <Round 8>

Score,UserID

8, whiteshark [8+1]
4, chessmoron [4+2]
4, OhioChessFan
4, juan31
4, paavoh [4+1]
3, Firouzjias [3+1]
3, Golden Executive
3, offramp
3, Penguincw [3+3]
2, WinKing [2+1]
2, Messiah [2+1]

Sep-11-22  chessmoron: Mamedyarov - Aronian 1/2 38
So - Dominguez 1-0 45
Vachier-Lagrave - Firouzja 1/2 46
Nepomniachtchi - Niemann 1-0 43
Sep-11-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Everything looks good to me.

---

Round 9:

Mamedyarov - Aronian 1/2-1/2 22
So - Dominguez 1/2-1/2 42
Vachier-Lagrave - Firouzja 1/2-1/2 42
Nepomniachtchi - Niemann 1/2-1/2 42

Sep-11-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  juan31: < ROUND 9 >

Mamedyarov - Aronian 1/2 39
So - Dominguez 1/2 42
Vachier-Lagrave - Firouzja 1/2 46
Nepomniachtchi - Niemann 1-0 42

Sep-11-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: ==Round 9

Mamedyarov - Aronian 1/2 24
So - Dominguez 1/2 43
Vachier-Lagrave - Firouzja 1-0 40
Nepomniachtchi - Niemann 1-0 43

Sep-11-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: Mamedyarov - Aronian 1-0 37
So - Dominguez 1/2 44
Vachier-Lagrave - Firouzja 1/2 30
Nepomniachtchi - Niemann 1-0 40
Sep-11-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <R9>

Mamedyarov - Aronian 1/2 35
So - Dominguez 1/2 45
Vachier-Lagrave - Firouzja 1/2 55
Nepomniachtchi - Niemann 1-0 45

Sep-11-22  Firouzjias: R9:
Mamedyarov - Aronian 1/2 25
So - Dominguez 1/2 25
Vachier-Lagrave - Firouzja 0-1 25
Nepomniachtchi - Niemann 1-0 45
Sep-11-22  offramp: / R9:

Mamedyarov - Aronian 1/2 44
So - Dominguez 1/2 35
Vachier-Lagrave - Firouzja 1/2 38
Nepomniachtchi - Niemann 1-0 55

Sep-11-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: ** Round 8 Recap **

<Pengo> and <whiteshark> still lead 2 Rankers each, although nobody really knows if that's right because nobody really knows what is going on with the ex post facto 10 point bonuses. <Pengo> started to walk up to the playing arena microphone again to explain things, but <chessmoron> glared at him and <Pengo> smartly walked away. <Pengo's> attempt to steal points from everyone else in the contest was successful, which didn't endear him to most of the contestants, although <OCF> grudgingly admires his Win At Any Costs mentality.

One round left as our fearless competitors continue their quest for Gold. Will anyone be stupid enough to challenge <chessmoron's> 10 Points Randomly Given to Somebody or Another rule? Will <Pengo> be stupid enough to try to explain it again? Tension is high, nerves are shredded, and the crowd rises...

Sep-11-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: As we wait for the final results, thanks to <chessmoron> for running the show and the starters for keeping things fair and all competitors.
Sep-11-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: Round 9 has started.
Sep-12-22  chessmoron: ♔ Sinquefield 2022 <FINAL Round> Result ♔

<Mamedyarov-Aronian, 1/2-1/2 in 39 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: [['juan31', '1/2-1/2', '39']]

Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: [['chessmoron', '1/2-1/2', '38']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['whiteshark', '1/2-1/2', '35']]

Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['offramp', '1/2-1/2', '44']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: []

===

<MVL-Firouzja, 1/2-1/2 in 33 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: [['paavoh', '1/2-1/2', '33']]

Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['offramp', '1/2-1/2', '38']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: [['Penguincw', '1/2-1/2', '42']]

===

<Nepo-Niemann, 1/2-1/2 in 54 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['Penguincw', '1/2-1/2', '42']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['paavoh', '1/2-1/2', '36']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['Messiah', '1/2-1/2', '26']]

Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

===

<So-Dominguez, 1/2-1/2 in 39 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['paavoh', '1/2-1/2', '35'], ['offramp', '1/2-1/2', '35']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['Firouzjias', '1/2-1/2', '25']]

3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['Penguincw', '1/2-1/2', '42'], ['juan31', '1/2-1/2', '42']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: [['Golden Executive', '1/2-1/2', '43']]

Sep-12-22  chessmoron: FINAL Round (w/out EXTRA POINTS) Summary:

Perfect # moves predictions for this round goes to

<juan31> and <paavoh>

<EXTRA>

<<Messiah, paavoh and Penguincw>>♔ predicted with the most correct <RESULT> 4/4 is awarded 10 points. Each player will receive 3.33 points.

Highest scores in the Bonus Ranker: 6 points: <chessmoron>, <paavoh> and <Firouzjias>

Results:

Moves Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, Over, Under, Exact

55, whiteshark, 1, 6, 1 ([1]10)
41, paavoh, 1, 4, 1 ([2]2+3.33)
38, juan31, 0, 4, 1
31, Penguincw, 0, 3, 1 ([4]2+10+5+3.33)
27, chessmoron, 1, 2, 1 ([2]2+10)
27, offramp, 1, 2, 1
24, Golden Executive, 0, 2, 1
24, OhioChessFan, 1, 3, 0
21, Firouzjias, 0, 3, 0 ([1]5)
17, WinKing, 0, 1, 1 ([1]2)
14, Messiah, 0, 2, 0 ([2]2+3.33)

===

Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, 3-Over, 2-Over, 3-Under, 2-Under

60, Penguincw, 4, 2, 2, 7
45, Golden Executive, 4, 3, 1, 5
40, Firouzjias, 0, 1, 4, 3
38, chessmoron, 2, 1, 2, 4
34, Messiah, 0, 3, 2, 3
27, paavoh, 1, 4, 0, 3
26, WinKing, 1, 1, 1, 3
24, OhioChessFan, 0, 4, 2, 1
23, offramp, 0, 3, 1, 2
20, whiteshark, 4, 3, 2, 0
14, juan31, 0, 4, 0, 1

===

Moves+Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID

91, Penguincw
75, whiteshark
69, Golden Executive
68, paavoh
65, chessmoron
61, Firouzjias
52, juan31
50, offramp
48, OhioChessFan
48, Messiah
43, WinKing

===

Moves Ranker (# of 1st place UNDER/OVER) - Through <FINAL Round>

Score,UserID

8, whiteshark [8+1]
5, juan31
4, chessmoron [4+2]
4, OhioChessFan
4, Penguincw [4+3]
6, paavoh [6+2]
3, Firouzjias [3+1]
3, Golden Executive
4, offramp
2, WinKing [2+1]
2, Messiah [2+2]

Sep-12-22  offramp: Well done to the winners. It wasn't a fantastic tournament, and Carlsen had a Gehirnexplosion which almost ruined the whole event.

I wish the winners the best.

Sep-12-22  paavoh: Congrats to all winners, thank you for all participants! Thanks <chessmoron> and <OCF> for hosting and reporting!

I lost some interest in this tournament, so I did not predict on every round - surprisingly, it worked well for me.

See you next time!

Sep-12-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Some scoring and medaling corrections:

Bonus and Total Ranker seem correct to me.

For Moves Ranker, assuming the bonus points are simply added on, should've <Penguincw> have 31 points + 20.333 bonus points for 51.333 points and the solo silver medal? (this affects <paavoh> and <chessmoron>)

Also, for First Ranker, <Penguincw> got 4 regular points, but since I assume you also added the amount of bonuses received (4), that should mean 8 points and a silver medal.

(this also means the bronze <chessmoron> lost in Moves Ranker is regained in First Ranker)

<whiteshark> is missing his silver in Total Ranker, and it should be gold in First Ranker.

---

I guess I will put on the record a minor scoring correction that doesn't affect any medaling, just for completion purposes:

- <OCF> got MVL-Firouzja drawn in 30, good for 6 points in bonus.

Sep-12-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Regardless of what the results are, thank you so much <chessmoron> for making this contest possible and doing the scorekeeping. Trust me, this was not easy to keep track of (I know, cause I was proofreading, duh).

Also thank you to <OhioChessFan> for making his forum an open place to do this contest, and <WinKing> for some scoring corrections. Congrats to all the medalists of course.

Hope to see you next time, which seems to be Tata Steel in the New Year. I'm glad with all the chaos in the world, Tata Steel is always a constant.

Sep-12-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: Warmest thanks to <chessmoron> and <OhioChessFan> for sponsoring this really history making tournament.

All due congratulations to the deservedly lucky medal winners, best wishes to <everyone else> next time.

Sep-12-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: ** Final Recap **

The only event in the chess world more controversial than Carlsen's withdrawal is the scoring in this contest. Most people are content to just let whatever the 7' 6" <chessmoron> says is right, be right. But the intrepid <Pengo> is continuing to insist on finding scoring errors, maybe, he admittedly doesn't understand the scoring, but he's bound and determined to fix things he knows nothing about, and so we're having our own Chessgames.com January 6th meltdown. <OCF> made the mistake of admitting he's beyond caring, and so <Pengo> supposedly found like a 100 extra points for <OCF> but <Pengo> figures <OCF> doesn't care anyway. Or something.

Anyway, <whiteshark> and <Pengo> clearly won 2 Golds each. After that, it's anybody's guess. The Carlsen-Niemann controversy will probably be resolved before this contest. Anyway, that's the contest and if anyone has a problem, they can take it up with <chessmoron>. Have I mentioned he's 7' 6"? Thanks for playing!

Sep-13-22  chessmoron: FINAL Round (WITH EXTRA POINTS) Summary:

Perfect # moves predictions for this round goes to <juan31> and <paavoh>

<EXTRA>

<<Messiah, paavoh and Penguincw>>♔ predicted with the most correct <RESULT> 4/4 is awarded 10 points. Each player will receive 3.33 points.

Highest scores in the Bonus Ranker: 6 points: <chessmoron>, <Firouzjias>, <OhioChessFan> and <paavoh>

Results:

Moves Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, Over, Under, Exact

♔ 65, whiteshark, 1, 6, 1 ([1]10)
♘ 51.33, Penguincw, 0, 3, 1 ([4]2+10+5+3.33)
♗ 46.33, paavoh, 1, 4, 1 ([2]2+3.33)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
39, chessmoron, 1, 2, 1 ([2]2+10)
38, juan31, 0, 4, 1
27, offramp, 1, 2, 1
26, Firouzjias, 0, 3, 0 ([1]5)
24, Golden Executive, 0, 2, 1
24, OhioChessFan, 1, 3, 0
19.33, Messiah, 0, 2, 0 ([2]2+3.33)
19, WinKing, 0, 1, 1 ([1]2)

===

Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID, 3-Over, 2-Over, 3-Under, 2-Under

♔ 60, Penguincw, 4, 2, 2, 7
♘ 45, Golden Executive, 4, 3, 1, 5
♗ 40, Firouzjias, 0, 1, 4, 3
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
38, chessmoron, 2, 1, 2, 4
34, Messiah, 0, 3, 2, 3
30, OhioChessFan, 0, 4, 2, 2
27, paavoh, 1, 4, 0, 3
26, WinKing, 1, 1, 1, 3
23, offramp, 0, 3, 1, 2
20, whiteshark, 4, 3, 2, 0
14, juan31, 0, 4, 0, 1

===

Moves+Bonus Ranker - Through <FINAL Round>

Score, UserID

♔ 111.33, Penguincw (+2+10+5+3.33)
♘ 85, whiteshark (+10)
♗ 77, chessmoron (+2+10)
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
73.33, paavoh (+2+3.33)
69, Golden Executive
66, Firouzjias (+5)
54, OhioChessFan
53.33, Messiah (+2+3.33)
52, juan31
50, offramp
45, WinKing (+2)

===

Moves Ranker (# of 1st place UNDER/OVER) - Through <FINAL Round>

Score,UserID

♔ 9, whiteshark [8+1]
♘ 8, paavoh [6+2]
♗ 7, Penguincw [4+3]
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
6, chessmoron [4+2]
5, juan31
4, Firouzjias [3+1]
4, Messiah [2+2]
4, offramp
4, OhioChessFan
3, Golden Executive
3, WinKing [2+1]

Sep-13-22  chessmoron: ♙<WINNER'S CORNER>

♔♔♘♗<Penguincw> Sinq22:StdMvRnk(2) + StdMv/Bonus (1) + 1stRanker(1) + BonusRnk(3)

♔♔♘ <whiteshark> Sinq22:StdMvRnk(1) + 1stRanker(2) + BonusRnk(1)

♘♗ <paavoh> Sinq22:StdMvRnk(3) + BonusRnk(2)

<Golden Executive> Sinq22:StdMv/Bonus (2)

<chessmoron> Sinq22:1stRanker(3)

<Firouzjias> Sinq22:StdMv/Bonus (3)

Sep-13-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  juan31: Thank you to < chessmoron> and < OhioChessFan> congratulations to all.
Sep-13-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  Golden Executive: Many thanks to the crew, <chessmoron>, <ocf> and <WinKing>, for another exciting contest and congratulations to all of the medal winners, especially to <Penguincw> and <whiteshark> on their double crowns.

See you folks next time!

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