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Vasyl Ivanchuk vs Peter Svidler
Morelia-Linares (2006), Morelia MEX, rd 6, Feb-25
Gruenfeld Defense: General (D80)  ·  1-0



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Feb-26-06  setebos: I dont think Svidler should play the Grunfeld against top players like Ivanchuk. I believe his record is dismal and besides they know what he will play and prepare accordingly.
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  Mateo: Brilliant win. I think the losing move was 18... Bg2?.

If 19... Bd5 20. Bf6! Rg8 (20... Nf6 21. Bb5, White wins; 20... Rc4 21. Nc4, White wins ) 21. Bd5! Qc1 22. Ke2 Qc8 23. Be6, White wins.

If 21... Qh1 22. Nf1 Qb7 23. Rc7, White wins.

If 24... Qh2 25. Re8 Kd5 26. Qa8, White wins. If 24... Be7 25. Re8, White wins. If 24... Bh2 25. REh7, White wins. If 24... Qh1 25. Ke2, it is all the same.

Feb-26-06  suenteus po 147: This was the chess I was told to expect from Ivanchuk at this tournament and it's a pleasure to finally see it! :)
Feb-26-06  Aleking: Acirce, I also have always appreciated your posts.
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  chancho: Same here.
Feb-26-06  SniperOnG7: <setebos> The problem is Svidler doesnt have a solid backup defence. What is he gona play against d4 other than Grunfeld? KID? Isnt this under a superGM cloud? Don't be mistaken...I respect KID and its champions but the point im making is changing from Grunfeld to the KID is like buying a new car which is exactly the same model from the old one except for a different colour!
Feb-26-06  chessmoron: is this grunfeld: stockholm?
Feb-26-06  setebos: Yes,but what about the Queens Indian or Nimzo?
Feb-26-06  Akavall: <acirce> Congrats to Sweden for winning gold medals in hockey!
Feb-26-06  Ron: Concerning other replies to d4: The Queen's Indian seems solid, and Leko seems to play that all the time against d4. Then there's the Nimzo-Indian. There's the Slav Defense which seems fine. Then there is the Queen's Gambit Accepted, and the Queens Gambit Declined. I don't like the Grunfeld, the Kings Indian Defense, and the Dutch Defense.
Feb-26-06  Kasparov Shadow: Nice to see Svidler losing!
Feb-26-06  EmperorAtahualpa: <is this grunfeld: stockholm?>

<chessmoron> Yes, because of 4.Bg5.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Nf3 is Gruenfeld: three knights variation.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Qb3 is Gruenfeld: Russian variation.

Feb-27-06  s4life: <suenteus po 147: This was the chess I was told to expect from Ivanchuk at this tournament and it's a pleasure to finally see it! :)>

His win against Aronian was also pretty good ;)

Feb-27-06  s4life: <Pawn to Qb4: Personally, I'd have failed to see that 15. Bxc4 isn't ruled out by 15...Bb4+ "winning a piece".>

White gets back the bishop, after playing a3 in its next move, with better position after the exchange. IvanC obviously saw that line.

Feb-27-06  SniperOnG7: Svidler's repatoire neither includes the Nimzo nor the Queen's Indian so maybe for now he might just have to make do with his risky defences. On the other hand, he IS a SUPERGM so I guess he should be able to quickly learn up some more-solid stuff before the 2nd half of Linares starts :/
Feb-27-06  notyetagm: Hilarious commentary from Mig at the Daily Dirt chess blog on this game:

<Also in round six, Ivanchuk grabbed a pawn against Svidler's Grunfeld novelty in an offbeat line and held on to it like a pitbull. When Svidler tried to grab one back, on g2, his fragile position crumbled completely. When the Grunfeld goes wrong it doesn't drop out of school and get caught shoplifting. It burns down the school and robs a bank for drug money.>

Feb-27-06  alexandrovm: Here the Grunfeld defense just go downs in flames.
Mar-11-06  Johnny Yune: There is a great video analysis of this game available from the FICS site
Aug-07-06  fevered cheek: <Johnny Yune> that was some good commentary, however he says 18...Bxg2 was the best move svidler could have made, and that 18...g5 was too slow and that white would win with 19.Kd1, but he was assuming that black would then play 19...gxh4??, yet black has a few options that keep a reasonable defense like 19...Qc6 or 19...Qd8!

he also said that the text move 19...Qc6 was svidlers most optimal move, which is not accurate. how about keeping the bishop with 19...Bb7, although white is still much better.

he also said that a computer would not find 20.Rxg2 and hiarcs 10 found it immediatley.

the biggest blunder of the game was actually 19...Qc6, but still a good fight from svidler, and pure genius from ivanchuk.

Aug-07-06  Albertan: Black could have played 18...Qc6 and been okay after:

18... Qc6 19. e4 Rb2 20.d5 exd5
21. exd5 Qb6 22. Qxb6 axb6
23. Rb1 Rxb1+ 24. Nxb1 Bb4+ 25.Kd1 Ke7

Nov-05-06  Sularus: too complicated for a patzer like me.
Dec-19-06  setebos: I think it is a very bad idea to play so sharply against a genius of Ivanchuk`s caliber.
Oct-19-07  notyetagm: This brilliant Ivanchuk miniature win is included in the new update of Dr. Nunn's "101 Brilliant Chess Miniatures" (
Mar-12-09  dwavechess: 19/25 Concur with Rybka 3 at 3 min. per move Q6600 for Ivanchuk
Aug-12-14  FredGambit: Just played through this in Guess the Move; I'm shocked that I got as close to par as I did (24 w/par 26). I had several negative moves and the game was just so delightfully unpredictable. A LOT of fun to play through!
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