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Maurice Ashley vs Alan Shaw
Foxwoods Open (2000), Ledyard, CT USA, rd 2, Apr-21
French Defense: Winawer. Classical Variation (C18)  ·  1-0

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Dec-01-13  shach matov: even against a GM this is a very weak opening by <perfidious>, you can almost feel him trembling in this game; and a very amateur decision to castling into it, white had a very transparent attack on the king's side
Dec-01-13  Jim Bartle: <perfidious> Of course not. He's too busy checking to see who's playing at the Foxwood poker tables.
Dec-01-13  solskytz: <Shach Matov> I'm reproducing here my recent post from the WCH pages, in case you see this one first. No stalking! (This refers to you stalking <Perfidious>. You know I'm not going to be stalking you!)

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<Shach> I have a lot of sympathy for you because of some bright posts and ideas from the past - you know exactly what I'm talking about. However if you keep attacking Perfidious without any apparent reason, and especially such vicious, poisonous attacks as you make, I will put you on Ignore.

I don't look at what people on my "Ignore" write and don't answer them. Ask <Abdul Irada>. He will tell you all about it.

So please stop. I won't write you again about this.

Thanks.

Dec-01-13  solskytz: Massacres happen in chess. I'm light-years from GM, but today my FIDE 2000 opponent had to resign after playing his 14th move. Three cheers!
Dec-01-13
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  perfidious: <solskytz>: Thank you for your support.
Dec-01-13  solskytz: You can always count on it :-)
Dec-01-13  Jim Bartle: I do wonder about your definition of "good fun," <schach>. A pathetic attempt to ridicule another kibitzer by commenting on a game of his doesn't seem like good fun.

And by the way, we know <perfidious's> real name because he has chosen to reveal it. Something you have chosen not to do (which is OK, but...).

Dec-01-13  Jim Bartle: I don't read every page...What I see on this page is pathetic.
Dec-01-13  shach matov: I will not post a long response but will just say that <perf> always starts ad hominem with me first so it should not be a surprise when he gets the same treatment.

While posting here is 100% within the rules of this site, if someone likes to post so many ad hominem against other users, why can't we post criticism on his game?

Don't start with others, they will not start with you. Enjoy your evening ;]

Dec-01-13  solskytz: Now classically and ideally you would both virtually shake hands and the whole thing should dissipate and vanish like a bad dream before a gentle alarm clock.

Enough of this "action and reaction" thing... time for more friendship.

Dec-01-13  shach matov: Good idea <solskytz>, now play us something dramatic on the piano and let me forget the bad dream of this game ;]

Don't take things so seriously guys. We all lose some games and win some also, it's all good, it's all part of experience ;]

Dec-01-13  solskytz: <Shach Matov>

This last post from you is yet another subtle (or not so subtle actually) slur against <Perfidious>. I refer to the "forget the bad dream of this game" part.

Under the circumstances I really don't appreciate it. I don't want to see any further attacks from you on this user, and any more signs for bad blood from your side towards him.

Dec-01-13  ChemMac: Some history! Back when Maurice had maybe a 2000 US rating and was a CCNY undergraduate, he lost to me in MY simultaneous! Well; I was dead lost, but he overlooked a mate in two. I had no idea of the strengths of the maybe 30 students I was playing, and quickly found out that this guy was a very good player!
Dec-31-14  john barleycorn: From Patrick Ballard's page:

<Perfidious: Maybe I should appeal to the powers that be and get, inter alia, my loss to Maurice Ashley excised.>

Before that let CG clean the site from hundreds of other games... Happy new year to you.

Dec-31-14
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  perfidious: <perfidious: By the time I played this game, my last of many against a GM....>

It was <not quite> the last: my tired old brain had forgotten about the last of three losses to Alexander Ivanov, played the following year.

Jan-02-15  Abdel Irada: <perfidious: By the time I played this game, my last of many against a GM, any sense of trepidation over facing one had long since gone. From the play here, one would never have known that, though.

Reflecting on this, for a start, 9....cxd4 is probably a strategic error; I'm not sure why I didn't play the natural 9....b6. Castling was most likely premature. The 'TN' 9....cxd4 can be sent to the garbage heap.>

As is my wont, I looked over the game before reading the comments.

Now I find that my own comment-in-contemplation would be superfluous, for you have already reached the same conclusions — albeit in somewhat more self-deprecating terms — that I took away from the game.

I'm also reminded of that old saw, "In the French, castling is always premature." :-D

Jan-02-15  Jim Bartle: The ridicule of games played by posters here reminds me of the scene in Cuckoo's Nest where Nicholson bets the other inmates he can lift this huge piece of medical equipment bolted to the floor.

He tries hard but of course he can't and the others start laughing at him. And Nicholsin answers "Yeah, but at least I tried."

Jan-02-15
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  perfidious: <Jim> Never saw that film, but the scene sounds a mite wacko.

As to the invisible comments of <shach>, who cares?

Jan-02-15
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  perfidious: P S Good thing I never claimed that my play here was anything better than execrable; for that it was.
Jan-02-15  Jim Bartle: It goes far beyond <schach>.

Nicholson was telling the other mental patients they shouldn't be so passive. Then when things get really bad, the giant and silent Chief does pick it up. Great book, by the way.

Jan-02-15
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  perfidious: <Jim> Thanks--maybe one day, I will get to read it.

Still have to read my copy of <Invisible Man> I picked up a time ago, however.

Jan-03-15  Abdel Irada: <Jim>, I hope you don't think *I'm* ridiculing this game.

My attention was called to it by a post, and I was surprised to see how precisely <perfidious>' own analysis mirrored mine.

Jan-03-15  Jim Bartle: No, of course not.
Jan-25-16  thegoodanarchist: Black lost because he played the French defense and then castled.

Usually, if you castle in the French, you are doomed. Unless your opponent castles first :)

Jan-10-22
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  Check It Out: <TGA: Black lost because he played the French defense and then castled.

Usually, if you castle in the French, you are doomed. Unless your opponent castles first :)>

Unless you are Petrosian facing Fischer:
Fischer vs Petrosian, 1962

Or Anand squaring off with Kasparov:
Kasparov vs Anand, 1991

Or Nimzovitch facing no less than Lasker:
Lasker vs Nimzowitsch, 1934

All in good fun, of course. Each one of those players proved lesser lights than their victims overall; except when they castled first playing a French with black :)

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