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François André Philidor vs John M Bruehl
London (1789) (unorthodox), London, England, Jan-26
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Oct-13-07
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  keypusher: Hang on, why is Bruehl giving Philidor odds? Was White playing without his QR?
Oct-13-07
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  Calli: <kp> Good point. White plays without a Queen's knight, Black without the f-pawn . Source: Walker's Selection of Games
Oct-14-07
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  Calli: I am sure it will be fixed today. In Walker's "One thousand games" he gives Qc6. This is on Google books: http://books.google.com/books?id=Vf...

See game 32. I don't have the original "Selection" but was looking at the game given in QCH4 by Fiala who gives "Selection" as his source. QCH has Qc4 as the move. On balance, I think Qc6 is correct since we have the original document.

Jan-31-08  wolfmaster: I love how Philidor surrounds Bruhl's king.
Feb-12-08  just a kid: Man,Philidor was an attacker too!
Mar-25-08  Knight13: Obviously the f-pawn proved too much for the underdog, who receieved a fine tactical massacre.
Dec-31-08  WhiteRook48: why is Philidor getting odds? Is he not good enough a player????
Jan-03-09  WhiteRook48: The Scandinavian Deense (there's no f-pawn)
Jan-05-09  WhiteRook48: can't chessgames take off the white QN since Philidor was giving odds too?
Jan-10-09  WhiteRook48: one pin messes up black's game
Jan-19-09  WhiteRook48: fantastic. one pawn makes ALL the difference.
Apr-30-15  A.T PhoneHome: Philidor got bored and decided to make some Crème Brûehl.
Mar-30-17  NoobPawn: Sooo..I know this is going to be a stupid question...but how is it a mate for white at move 19?
Mar-30-17
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  vonKrolock: 19...Qg4 20.Bxd8 Qg1+ 21.Ke2 Qg4+ 22.Kd2! etc
Apr-03-17  NoobPawn: Thanks! It was really nagging not seing it.
Jun-01-21
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  jessicafischerqueen:

<keypusher>, <Calli>

I accidentally came on this game today and noticed the corrections you suggested.

I downloaded Walker's "One thousand games" to confirm, and now the start position shows that <Philidor> indeed started without a Queen Knight.

Also, as <Calli> pointed out, the more primary source of Walker with 18.Qc6 should be retained, as opposed to the 18.Qc4 given later by Fiala in "Quarterly for Chess History 4."

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