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| Nov-01-06 | | dehanne: <How people can like this guy and Kramnik at the same time is beyond me. Their styles could not be more different.
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Maybe some people like various styles at the same time. |
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| Nov-01-06 | | notyetagm: <dehanne> Magnus is one of the most exciting, tactical chess players on the planet. Kramnik's chess is as dull as watching paint dry. |
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| Nov-01-06 | | notyetagm: <dehanne>
Magnus chess: 38 ♘f5+!!
Kramnik chess: Trade off queens early, win endgame with passed pawn |
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Nov-02-06
 | | keypusher: <How people can like this guy and Kramnik at the same time is beyond me.> Because they're both great players. You might as well say it's impossible to like Bach and Tchaikovsky at the same time. Actually it's quite easy. |
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| Nov-03-06 | | Manic: <cirbals> I'm not a good player so I just Fritzed it. After playing through a few lines with it, it came up with 15...Nxf3 16.gxf3 Qb6 17.Rg1! with a +1.25 advantage to white (best move according to fritz is Qd8). 17...Bxd4? is met by 18.e5!! when 18...Bxe3?? is a mate in 9 starting with 19.Rxg7+!! (other moves lose mainly to 19.Rxg7+!! or 19.Bxd4). 17...Ne8 is apparently a mate in 13 starting with 18.Rxg7+!!. Hard to believe that Magnus saw all of this. Probably saw the main ideas like an e5 push and a Rook sac on g7 |
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| Nov-03-06 | | dehanne: <notyetagm> Does the move Nf5+ really deserve two exclamation marks? It's really not very hard to miss. |
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| Nov-03-06 | | Ulhumbrus: 9...Nxd3 gains the bishop pair, as does 10...Nxd3, at the price however, of losing time for development. On the other hand, it is up to White to find a way of making count his lead in development. |
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| Nov-03-06 | | Ulhumbrus: 21 Qg5!! creates a double threat which is much less obvious than a direct fork. In addition to attacking the bishop on g1, instead of threatening Qxg7 mate, White threatens f6 followed by ( in reply to ...g6) Qh6 and then Qg7 mate. This is an instructive resource, and one may be able to learn still more from it, as it may suggest other ways of deriving less obvious double attacks from more direct double attacks. This brings some of Topalov's sacrifices to mind. Instead of taking something, or doing something at once, one only THREATENS to take something or do something, and not necessarily even on the very next move. |
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| Dec-08-06 | | Dres1: Watching paint dry is actually pretty exciting after about 30 minutes... provided you breathe deeply. |
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| Dec-08-06 | | Dres1: but seriously... Nf5+ is fantastic! |
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| Dec-08-06 | | notyetagm: <Dres1: but seriously... Nf5+ is fantastic!> Yes, my thoughts exactly, but to the many dishonest kibitzers here on cg.com it was an "obvious" move. |
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| Feb-07-14 | | talwnbe4: after 22. Ne4 in the game, Fruit prefers 22.. Be3 after a long line as 23. Qxe3 d5 24. Ng3 Rfe8 25. Qd4 Qd6 26. Nh5 Qh6 27. Nf4 Rad8 28. Kg2 Qd6 29. h4 Qd7 30. Ng5 Qc6 31. f6 g6 32. h5 and white has strong compensation !! |
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Feb-07-14
 | | Check It Out: Exciting game. 38.Nf5+ is not that easy to spot, though one would look at it because it's a forcing move. |
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| Sep-11-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4
24.Qd4 Re7 25.Kg2 Rd8 26.Qb4 Kh8 27.Qd4 Rc8 28.Nc3 Qc5 29.Nd5 Ree8 30.Nb4 a5 31.Nd5 b4 32.Kg3 Kg8 33.Nb6 Rc7 34.Qxc5 dxc5 35.Nd5 Rf7 36.Nf4 Rfe7 37.Ne6 Kf7 38.Nxc5
- / + (-0.97) Depth: 23
24.Qg4 Rf7 25.Kg2 Kh8 26.Nd4 Qd5 27.Ne6 Rd7 28.a3 Qe5 29.b3 Rde7 30.Qh4 Rc8 31.Nd2 d5 32.Qb4 Rd7 33.Nf3 Qd6 34.Qxd6 Rxd6 35.Nfd4 Kg8 36.Be2
- / + (-0.88) Depth: 23 |
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| Sep-11-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d dpa done
1. - / + (-0.96): 23...Rf7 24.Nd4 Qd5 25.Ne6 Rc8 26.Qg4 Kh8 27.Kg2 Re7 28.Qf3 b4 29.Qf4 Rd7 30.b3 Qe5 31.Kf3 2. - / + (-0.96): 23...Qd5 24.Qd4 Qxd4 25.Nxd4 Rfd8 26.Ne6 Rd7 27.Kg2 Kf7 28.Nc3 d5 29.Ne2 Ke7 30.N2d4 Kd6 31.h4 Re7 32.c3 Rae8 33.Bc2 Rg8 34.Kf3 Rb7 35.a3 g6 36.Kf4 Re7 37.a4 bxa4 38.Bxa4 gxf5 39.Kxf5 |
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| Sep-11-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 23 done
1. - / + (-0.98): 22.Ne4 f6 23.Qxg1 Qd5 24.Qd4 Qxd4 25.Nxd4 Rfd8 26.Ne6 Rd7 27.Kg2 Kf7 28.Nc3 d5 29.Ne2 g5 30.N2d4 Ke7 31.Kg3 2. - / + (-1.16): 22.Be4 Qc5 23.Qxg1 Qxg1+ 24.Kxg1 Rac8 25.f6 Rfe8 26.Bd3 g6 27.Nd5 Rc5 28.Ne7+ Kf8 29.Kg2 Rd8 30.Kg3 Rh5 31.Nd4 Rg5+ 32.Kf4 Rg2 33.Nd5 Rc8 34.Nb4 a5 35.Nbc6 Rf2+ 36.Kg3 Rxf6 37.Nxa5 Re8 38.Nxb5 d5 39.Nc7 Re3+ 40.Kg2 Re5 41.Kg3 Kg7 |
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| Sep-11-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 23 done
1. - / + (-1.16): 21...Qc5 22.Qxg1 Qxg1+ 23.Kxg1 Rfc8 24.f6 g6 25.Nd5 Rc5 26.Ne7+ Kf8 27.Kg2 Rd8 28.Kg3 Rh5 29.Nd4 Rg5+ 30.Kf4 Rg2 31.Nd5 Rc8 32.Nb4 a5 33.Nbc6 Rf2+ 34.Kg3 Rxf6 35.Nxa5 Re8 36.Nxb5 d5 37.Nc7 Re3+ 38.Kg2 Re5 39.Kg3 Kg7 2. - / + (-0.98): 21...Qc6 22.Ne4 f6 |
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| Sep-11-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4
21.Qg5 Qc5 22.Qxg1 Qxg1+ 23.Kxg1 Rfc8 24.f6 g6 25.Nd5 Rc5 26.Ne7+ Kf8 27.Kg2 Ra7 28.Kg3 b4 29.Be4 Rac7 30.Nd5 Rb7 31.Ne7 Rb6 32.Kf4 Rh5 33.Kg4 Ra5 34.Bd5 Rbb5 35.Bb3 Rc5 36.h4 h5+ 37.Kf4
- / + (-1.10) Depth: 25
21.Qg5 Qc5
- / + (-1.20 --) Depth: 26 |
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| Sep-11-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 21 dpa done
1. = (-0.15): 15.Rad1 b4 16.Nce2 Qa7 17.Qg3 Rb8 18.fxe6 fxe6 19.Bg5 Qe7 20.Rf2 Bb7 21.Rdf1 Kh8 22.Qe3 Nxd3 23.Qxd3 Rbc8 24.Rf3 Ba7 25.Kh2 Kg8 26.Bxf6 Rxf6 27.Rxf6 gxf6 28.Qf3 e5 2. = / + (-0.27): 15.Nce2 Qa7 16.Qg3 Bd7 17.Rad1 Kh8 18.Qh4 Nxd3 19.cxd3 b4 20.Qg3 e5 21.Nc2 Bb5 22.Bxc5 Qxc5 23.Ne3 Nxe4 24.dxe4 Bxe2 25.Rd5 Qc7 26.Re1 Bb5 27.Red1 Rad8 28.Qe1 Qb6 29.Rc1 |
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| Sep-11-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4
14...Bd7 15.Qg3 Qb6 16.fxe6 fxe6 17.Nce2 a5 18.b3 Rf7 19.Bg1 Raf8 20.Nf3 Bxg1 21.Rxg1 Qc5 22.Ng5 Re7 23.Rad1 h6 24.Nf3 Ref7 25.Nxe5 dxe5 26.a4 Bc6 27.Qh4 Qe7 28.Nc3 Qb4
= / + (-0.58) Depth: 20 |
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| Sep-11-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 20 done
1. = (-0.10): 14.Nf3 Bd7 15.Rd1 h6 16.Nxe5 dxe5 17.Bxc5 Qxc5 18.fxe6 fxe6 19.Qf2 Qxf2 20.Rxf2 Rad8 21.Rfd2 b5 22.Kh2 Rf7 23.a3 Bc6 24.g3 g6 25.g4 Kg7 26.Kg3 Nd7 2. = (-0.20): 14.fxe6 fxe6 15.Nf3 Bd7 16.Nxe5 dxe5 17.Rd1 Rad8 18.Bxc5 Qxc5 19.a3 Qb6 20.b3 Qc5 21.b4 Qc7 22.Be2 b5 23.Qg3 Rc8 24.Rd3 Bc6 25.Bg4 Rce8 26.Rdf3 Rf7 27.Kh2 Bb7 28.Qf2 Rd7 3. = (-0.20): 14.Rd1 b5 15.Qg3 Kh8 16.Nce2 Qe7 17.Bg5 Bb7 18.Qh4 Rae8 19.Kh2 b4 20.Bxf6 gxf6 21.fxe6 fxe6 22.c3 bxc3 23.bxc3 d5 24.exd5 Nxd3 25.Rxd3 Bxd5 26.Nf4 Be4 27.Re3 |
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| Sep-11-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4
13.Nb3 Bxe3 14.Qxe3 b5 15.a4 b4 16.Ne2 Bb7 17.Rac1 Rab8 18.a5 Rfc8 19.Ned4 Re8 20.Kg1 Rbc8 21.c3 bxc3 22.Rxc3 Qd7 23.Rxc8 Rxc8 24.Rc1 e5 25.Rxc8+ Qxc8
= (-0.03) Depth: 19
13.Nb3 Bxe3 14.Qxe3 b5 15.Ne2 Rd8 16.a4 b4 17.a5 Rb8 18.Rad1 Bb7 19.Ng3 Ne7 20.Ra1 Nc6 21.Qb6 Qc8 22.Qe3 Qd7 23.Rad1 Rbc8 24.Be2
= (-0.08) Depth: 20 |
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Nov-25-19
 | | cSete: Notyetagm:
I Got SCHOOLED as I stumbled through this game, but I came by Nf3+ honestly and fairly easily. Dunno, got lucky I guess. |
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| May-19-20 | | MrCalculater: since <cormier> already did a ton of analysis, I am not giving great analysis, but heres what I got for a move:24.Qd4 Re7 25.Kg2 Rd8 26.Qb4 Kh8 27.Qd4 Rc8 28.Nc3 Qc5 29.Nd5 Ree8 30.Nb4 a5 |
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| Dec-14-20 | | Cobax12: Great Ending reaction by Magnus |
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