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| May-31-17 | | RKnight: Double rook sac and mate! Pretty simple as a problem, but how many of us would see it over the board? Unlikely for me. |
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| May-31-17 | | goldfarbdj: I got the basic idea, but I got the order of moves wrong: I thought Rd8+ first, which after Qxd8 allows a very similar finish: 25 Rh8+ Bxh8 26 Qh7+ and mate next. But Black can block with 24 ... Bf8, after which the attack, while winning, takes longer. |
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| May-31-17 | | lost in space: The quickest way to mate seems to be
24. Rh8+ Bxh8 25. Rd8+ Qxd8 26. Qh7+ Kf8 27. Qf7# but also 24. Rd8+ Bf8 25. Rh8+ Kg7 26. Qh6+ Kf6 is mate soon |
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| May-31-17 | | poulh: Where is the mate soon after 25. Rh8+ Kg7? |
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| May-31-17 | | diagonalley: wow! ... easy peasy for a wednesday :-) |
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| May-31-17 | | BxChess: I found a marvelous forced mate after 24. Rd8+ Bf8 25. Rh8+ Kg7 but this box is too small to contain it. |
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| May-31-17 | | stst: Almost all Forced ...
24.Rh8+ BxR
25.Rd8+ QxR or Qe8 (if Qf8, 26.Qh7#)
26.Qh7+ Kf8
27.Qf7# |
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| May-31-17 | | stst: <I found a marvelous forced mate after 24. Rd8+ Bf8 25. Rh8+ Kg7 ..> Same 26.Qh7+ Kf6, 27.Rf8+ QxR, 28.QxQ and White prevails.. |
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| May-31-17 | | agb2002: White has a rook and a knight for the bishop pair and a pawn. Black threatens Qxg5.
The knight on g5 and the queen on h3 suggest the possibility of an eventual mate Qh7+ and Qf7# but the black queen controls the seventh rank. Therefore, 24.Rd8+: A) 24... Qxd8 25.Rh8+ Bxh8 26.Qh7+ Kf8 27.Qf7#.
B) 24... Bf8 25.Rh8+ Kg7 26.Qh6+ Kf6 27.Rf(h)xf8+ Qxf8 28.Rxf8+ Ke7 29.Qg7+ Kd6 30.Rd8+ Bd7 31.Q(R)xd7#. |
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| May-31-17 | | patzer2: For today's Wednesday puzzle solution (24. ?), we have two decoys leading to mate-in-four after 24. Rh8+! Bxh8 25. Rd8+! Qxd8 26. Qh7+ Kf8 27. Qf7#. It was so easy, I imagined an experienced hunter in a marsh setting out decoys to successfully attract a flock of ducks. Once the ducks are attracted to the decoys, it's easy for an expert hunter with a shotgun to pick them off. Seems to me that's roughly analogous to how the two key decoys in this game <24. Rh8+!> and <25. Rd8+!> were used to attact Black's defenders and put the enemy King into position to be taken out with checkmate. P.S.: Black's decisive mistake appears to be the not-so-obvious 17...exf4? allowing 18. hxg6  to  (+2.34 @ 28 depth, Stockfish 8.) Instead 17...Bxg4! 18. hxg6 hxg6 19. Bh6 Bxf3 20. Qe3 Bxd1 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 22. Qh6+ Kf7 23. Rxd1 Rh8 = (0.00 @ 34 depth, Stockfish 8) holds with level chances, as play might continue 24. Ng5+ Kf6 25. Ne4+ Kf7 25. Ng5+ Kf6 26. Ne4+ Kf7 27. Ng5+ = with a draw by threefold repetition. |
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| May-31-17 | | AlicesKnight: It looks like a different form of double-rook sacrifice. 24.Rd8+ probably brings ...Qxd8, whereon 25.Rh8+ Bxh8; 26.Qh7+ Kf8; 27.Qf7 mates. In the unlikely event of 24... Bf8, 25.Rh8+ Kg7; 26 Rh7+ wins the Q, or better still 26.Qh7+ Kg6; 27.Rhxf8+ Qxf8; 28.Rxf8 and 'curtains'. Let's see - same 'error' as <goldfarbdj> but OK. |
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| May-31-17 | | Walter Glattke: "We love Mondays",24.Rd8!?, Knight, then
allows 24.-Bf8 25.Rh8+ Kg7 26.Qh7+ Kf6
or 25.Rxf8+ Qxf8 26.Rh8+ Kg7 27.Qh6+ Kf6
and butcher's Party for Lovers with 28.Rxf8+ |
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| May-31-17 | | lost in space: <<poulh>: Where is the mate soon after 25. Rh8+ Kg7>
24. Rd8+ Bf8 25. Rh8+ Kg7 26. Qh6+ Kf6 27. Rdxf8+ Qxf8 28. Rxf8+ Ke7 29. Rf7+Kd6 30. Qf8#
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| May-31-17 | | lost in space: <<Walter Glattke:> "We love Mondays“> you too? I thought I am the only one |
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| May-31-17 | | Walter Glattke: The Bangles and the Boom Town Rats don't like Mondays, but we do this.
I just remembered to 1963, we played School chess, and a pupil said to his opposite, he would not set him mete, before, he would take off all his chessmen, then finally mate. I saw,
here we can play cruel chess after
24.Rd8. |
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May-31-17
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Eh, Rooks--who needs 'am? |
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| May-31-17 | | BxChess: 0 for 3 so far this week. I've got a bad feeling about tomorrows duel. |
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| May-31-17 | | gofer: Okay, we have <"the hard way or the easy way - which do you want?">. The easy way...
24 Rh8+ Bxh8
25 Rd8 Qxd8 (Kg7 Qxh8#)
26 Qh7+ Kf8
27 Qf7#
Dummy here, chose the hard way...
24 Rd8+ Bf8 (Qxd8 transposes)
25 Rh8+ Kg7
26 Qh6+ Kf6
27 Rdxf8+ Qxf8
28 Rxf8 Ke7
29 Qg7+ Kd6
30 Rf6+ Be6
31 Rxe6# |
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| May-31-17 | | saturn2: Black has more material but both 24 Rd8 and 24 Rh8 save the point for white. |
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| May-31-17 | | leRevenant: <diagonalley: wow! ... easy peasy for a wednesday :-)> Yes, easiest so far, this week. |
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| May-31-17 | | et1: given the theme of the week this was easy, never 2 without 3... :) |
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| May-31-17 | | cocker: 24 Rh8+ mates in 4, 24 Rd8+ mates in 7. I went for the slow one. |
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| May-31-17 | | Moszkowski012273: If black had found 17...Bxg4 he MIGHT of held this game. |
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| May-31-17 | | morfishine: Both 24.Rd8+ & 24.Rh8+ win
***** |
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| May-31-17 | | nalinw: <BxChess> I found a marvelous forced mate after 24. Rd8+ Bf8 25. Rh8+ Kg7 but this box is too small to contain it. Fermat's ghost? I love it! |
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