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Andre Lilienthal vs Kertesz
Budapest (1929), Budapest HUN
Indian Game: Saemisch-Indian (A50)  ·  1-0



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  vonKrolock: <21...♕d5>

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Inviting the ♕ sac (in this instance really a true exchange combination with an introdutory sacrifice, with a fine point <24.♘xe6>. The position after <26.♗xb7> is still very complex and deserving a though analysis

May-14-10  JonathanJ: this was 80 years ago...
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  MissScarlett: <Almost all sources give it as Lilienthal-Romih, Paris 1930. However, as the well-known Hungarian chess historian Arpad Foldeak pointed out in his 1988 German translation of Lilienthal's autobiography (Schach war mein Leben, p.11), this is wrong. It was played against Kertosz at Budapest 1929, and was the first game of Lilienthal's to appear in a chess magazine.> Richard Forster
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  Stonehenge: Shouldn't that be Kertész, see
Mar-23-19  zanzibar: I wonder about <Missy>'s Forster citation -

Lilienthal vs Kertesz, 1929 (kibitz #3)

It seems to have been adopted on <CG> (what about <ChessBase>?), but is it valid?

Despite the details, it amounts to hearsay, afaic.

What are the sources?

1. Where did Forster state this?

2. What did Lilienthal write in his autobiography?

3. Foldeak is mentioned, but what chess magazine is he referencing?

4. Who the heck is Kertesz? Or is it Kertosz?

(I hadn't had too much success finding games by Kertesz, and it appears neither has <CG>)

Mar-23-19  zanzibar: <Chessbase>, and most of the "cannon", still have <Lileanthal--Romih (1930)>, it seems.
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