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Veselin Topalov vs Gata Kamsky
Topalov - Kamsky Candidates Final (2009), Sofia BUL, rd 5, Feb-23
French Defense: Tarrasch Variation. Open System Euwe-Keres Line (C07)  ·  1-0

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Feb-23-09  eisenherz: <badest: <Bondsamir> ... :) thanks... But seriously, what is he calculating so deeply ... hmmm ... if it wasn't for game 2 I would think it was some kind of mind-game...>

I guess he was visualizing the kind of position he wants to have. Of course he must combine this with good time management

Feb-23-09  PhilFeeley: So Bd6 is a novelty?
Feb-23-09  Babar47: Qa4 now for white ?
Feb-23-09
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  Sneaky: Chessgames software slapped this with the label <French Defense: Tarrasch Variation. Open System Euwe-Keres Line.> I suppose that's an acknowledgment to games like Euwe vs W Schelfhout, 1927 and Keres vs Stahlberg, 1939 (both 1-0).
Feb-23-09
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  Mateo: 9...Bd6 could be a novelty.
Feb-23-09  hoodrobin: we get an isolani
Feb-23-09  reyjf: d bd6 just what we all predicted. ;)
Feb-23-09  ajile: Kamsky goes for rapid development.
Feb-23-09
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  eternaloptimist: Well fellas, we're out of the chessgames database already.
Feb-23-09
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  Mateo: I like the double exchange in the center (for instance, 10.cxd5 cxd5 11.exd5 exd5).
Feb-23-09  Eyal: 9...Bd6 appears to be practically a novelty - chessbase database contains one game in which it was played, but between rather obscure players.

Feb-23-09
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  Nigel Short: The most likely line will now involve an exchange on d5 and Qa4 (in some order). They will then enter an endgame in which White will pretend he is better (isolated pawn on d5 - shock, horror), but in fact has almost no advantage at all.
Feb-23-09  Absentee: Computer analysis gives white a +0.30 after 10.cxd5 cxd5 11.exd5 exd5 12.00
Feb-23-09  Marmot PFL: 9...Bd6 is not a novelty. 10.Qa4 is the usual response.
Feb-23-09  apoka: <Why not 9...Qa5 here?> It looks like after exchanging the center pawns, Black either has an isolated pawn or has to capture with the queen allowing White to play ♕a4 (which possibly loses without those central pawns as protection).
Feb-23-09  ajile: Possible situation after exchanges.


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Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit :

1. = (-0.01): 14.Nf3 Ne7 15.h3 f6 16.0-0 Rac8 17.Rd1 a6 18.Rb1 Ke6 19.Nd4+ Kf7

2. = (-0.02): 14.0-0 Ne7 15.Nf3 f6 16.Re1

Feb-23-09  vonKrolock: only a game from Iran?! - is 9...♗d6 the Teheran-idea!?

[Event "IRI-ch"]
[Site "IRI"]
[Date "2000.??.??"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Mahjoob,Morteza"]
[Black "Ghane Gardeh,Shojaat"]
[Result "1/2"]
[Eco "C07"]
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 cxd4 5.Nxd4 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd7 7.Nxc6 Bxc6 8.Bxc6+ bxc6 9.c4 Bd6 10.Qa4 Qd7 11.exd5 cxd5 12.Qxd7+ Kxd7 13.cxd5 exd5 14.0-0 Ne7 15.Nf3 Rab8 16.b3 a5 17.Bd2 Bb4 18.Bf4 Rb7 19.Ne5+ Ke6 20.Nd3 Rc8 21.Rac1 Bc3 22.Be5 d4 23.Bxg7 f6 24.Bh6 a4 25.b4 a3 26.Rb1 Kd5 27.Rb3 Kc4 28.Rd1 Ra8 29.Bf4 Nd5 30.Bd6 Rd7 31.Bc5 Nc7 32.Kf1 Nb5 33.Rdb1 Rdd8 1/2

Feb-23-09  Eyal: That game I mentioned was indeed drawn after those exchanges:

[Event "IRI-ch"]
[Site "IRI"]
[Date "2000.??.??"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Mahjoob,Morteza"]
[Black "Ghane Gardeh,Shojaat"]
[Result "1/2"]
[Eco "C07"]
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 cxd4 5.Nxd4 Nc6 6.Bb5 Bd7 7.Nxc6 Bxc6 8.Bxc6+ bxc6 9.c4 Bd6 10.Qa4 Qd7 11.exd5 cxd5 12.Qxd7+ Kxd7 13.cxd5 exd5 14.0-0 Ne7 15.Nf3 Rab8 16.b3 a5 17.Bd2 Bb4 18.Bf4 Rb7 19.Ne5+ Ke6 20.Nd3 Rc8 21.Rac1 Bc3 22.Be5 d4 23.Bxg7 f6 24.Bh6 a4 25.b4 a3 26.Rb1 Kd5 27.Rb3 Kc4 28.Rd1 Ra8 29.Bf4 Nd5 30.Bd6 Rd7 31.Bc5 Nc7 32.Kf1 Nb5 33.Rdb1 Rdd8 1/2

Feb-23-09  charlie2000: i dont often make comments but Nige is hilarious/refreshing like a cuppa (free of too much caffeine tho)
Feb-23-09  arkansaw: Topalov didn't expect to give Kamsky easy equality in 10 moves..
Feb-23-09  popski: I also have a feeling that Topalov want to reach something similar like Fischer in this game: Fischer vs Petrosian, 1971, but that's a different story, I guess...
Feb-23-09  Marmot PFL: Chess is very popular in Iran. Even their women's team is very strong, due to good coaching.
Feb-23-09  ajile: The problem for White is that he has played Nd2 which makes no sense if he is fighting for the d5 square. Not only that but the Nd2 blocks his queen bishop so he can't play Bg5 if Black plays Nf6.
Feb-23-09  whiteshark: 10.Qe2 Ne7 11.e5 Bc7 (or Bc5) 12.0-0 0-0 as a French-like continuation.
Feb-23-09
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  Nigel Short: I have been playing the French for about 35 years. I even wrote a glorified pamphlet/book on it once upon a time. From a Black perspective, if someone plays a primitive simplifying line like this with White, I just consider that his understanding is naive. I would expect to hold the game comfortably.
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