Apr-07-09 | | paavoh: Grischuk allowed Shirov to claim space in the center in moves 15-25. Perhaps White did not formulate a plan, moved back and forth with his Knight and Black grabbed the initiative with his pawns and Bishops. Well played. |
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Apr-07-09 | | notyetagm: <paavoh: ... Perhaps White did not formulate a plan, moved back and forth with his Knight and Black grabbed the initiative with his pawns and Bishops. Well played.> Yes, it looks to me like White did not have a clue as to what he should be doing in this position, just moving the knights and bishops back and forth, back and forth. |
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Apr-07-09 | | WarrenHam: It is Svidler, not Shirov. |
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Apr-07-09 | | slomarko: Grischuk played like crap. |
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Apr-07-09 | | notyetagm: <slomarko: Grischuk played like crap.> Yes.
This game shows you how *hard* chess really is when a 2748 who just won Linares cannot find a good plan in a given position. |
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Apr-07-09 | | slomarko: and maybe this game also shows that it is better to play against the standard Grunfeld rather than trying these useless anti-Grunfeld hybrids. |
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Apr-07-09 | | notyetagm: <slomarko: and maybe this game also shows that it is better to play against the standard Grunfeld rather than trying these useless anti-Grunfeld hybrids.> <slomarko> You are a stronger player than me. What exactly is Grischuk doing bewtween moves 15-25? It almost seems that he is just randomly moving his pieces around. But I am only USCF 1832. |
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Apr-07-09 | | slomarko: i have no idea what was he doing. maybe some sexy chick entered the playing hall and he stopped carrying for the game hehehe. and its not like he started to play after the 25th move. the very next move 26.b3 seems to me it might be the moment where his position goes from "white is worse" to "white is much worse". |
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Apr-07-09 | | notyetagm: <slomarko: i have no idea what was he doing. maybe some sexy chick entered the playing hall and he stopped carrying for the game hehehe. and its not like he started to play after the 25th move. the very next move 26.b3 seems to me it might be the moment where his position goes from "white is worse" to "white is much worse".> LOL
Some sexy chick? Isn't Grischuk married? :-) |
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Apr-07-09 | | slomarko: if i remember correctly he's married to Zhukova.
Natalia Zhukova
but being married has never stopped anybody from... well from being a man :P |
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Apr-07-09 | | DCP23: <paavoh: Grischuk allowed Shirov to claim space in the center in moves 15-25.> While Svidler was looking the other way, Shirov sneaked in and claimed space in the center. Why would Grischuk allow that is far from obvious however. |
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Apr-08-09 | | paavoh: <DCP23> sorry, my bad. I knew it was Svidler but my fingers typed Shirov :-) |
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Apr-10-09 | | Raivis: I'm started analyze from 26 move.
White have very elastic defensive power ...
26. Kf1 Nb3
27. Nxb3 Bxb3
28. Nd1 Rd6
29. h4 Nd5
30. Nc3 Nf6
31. Kg1 Re8
32. Bd2 Re7
33. Re1 e4
34. Bf4 Rd8
35. dxe4 Nxe4
36. Bf3 Nd2
37. Ra1 |
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Apr-10-09 | | arnaud1959: I still remember that fantastic game between those two: Grischuk vs Svidler, 2007 |
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Apr-17-09 | | notyetagm: I just cannot get over how much this game looks like <NN vs Svidler 2009>. |
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Apr-17-09 | | notyetagm: 52 ... ?
 click for larger view52 ... a3-a2! <double attack: a1,b1>
 click for larger viewGame Collection: Passed pawn versus knight trick, an Alekhine fav 52 ... a3-a2! attacks two mating squares by threatening b1-N |
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