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Viswanathan Anand vs Vladimir Kramnik
Grand Slam Chess Final (2010), Bilbao ESP, rd 3, Oct-11
Catalan Opening: Open Defense. Modern Sharp Variation (E04)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Oct-11-10  Hesam7: <<27…e5> No, Kramnik’s analysis turned out to be even deeper than I’d previously thought. I’m judging that by the clocks that show: 0.35 – 1.15! It’s simply some sort of monstrous immersion in theory, in the style of an excavator. For us, humans with spades, such large-scale work and bottomless pits look crazy.> GM Shipov
Oct-11-10  crazybird: <LG asks Kramnik about his strategy in this game, which surprised him. Kramnik says Grischuk was preparing this line against Leko, asked him and he analysed the whole night since he wasn't playing and got the conclusion that it was drawn; sadly Grischuk lost in another line, but the work proved useful for him.

LG asks Vishy if it was a bit strange for him to see Kramnik go into a seemingly worse endgame. Vishy says it's interesting and says he couldn't find a way to crack the black position and so headed for the endgame which seemed nice for white, thinking he could pose problems. He didn't know Kramnik knew the endgame that well, but he understands that such things happen with the Catalan (such drawish endgames).>

Source: Alez's translation of post-match press conference

Oct-11-10  Hesam7: This variation of the open Catalan (1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. g3 dxc4 5. Bg2 Nc6) seems to be one of Kramnik's favorite ways to play against his favorite weapon. Correct me if I am wrong but for example he never plays the main line (1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. g3 Be7 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O dxc4 7. Qc2 a6 8. Qxc4 b5 9. Qc2) from the Black side.
Oct-11-10  Mr. Bojangles: <Hesam7: <<27…e5> No, Kramnik’s analysis turned out to be even deeper than I’d previously thought. I’m judging that by the clocks that show: 0.35 – 1.15! It’s simply some sort of monstrous immersion in theory, in the style of an excavator. For us, humans with spades, such large-scale work and bottomless pits look crazy.> GM Shipov>

In that case, it is safe to say, no one will ever play this line against Kramnik again.

Oct-11-10  Mr. Bojangles: Has Kramnik ever lost in the catalan?
Oct-11-10  polarmis: All of Shipov's comments are here now: http://www.chessintranslation.com/2...
Oct-11-10  crazybird: <he never plays the main line (1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. g3 Be7 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O dxc4 7. Qc2 a6 8. Qxc4 b5 9. Qc2) from the Black side.>

Le Quang Liem vs Kramnik, 2010

Oct-11-10  Mr. Bojangles: I can see why Shipov is a very entertaining analyst - great stuff.
Oct-11-10  Eyal: <Has Kramnik ever lost in the catalan?>

- With White, I don't think he ever lost.

- With Black, he lost one blindfold game a while ago:

Ivanchuk vs Kramnik, 1998

and one classical game recently, if you count

Ponomariov vs Kramnik, 2010

(But some might deny it's a Catalan and call it a Bogo-Indian)

Oct-11-10  crazybird: Shipov @ Chessintranslation.com:

"The best two laboratories in the world studied one and the same line in the opening in parallel. Appearing for the face-to-face game the titans exchanged their ideas and came to a general conclusion – black holds equality in the given variation of the Catalan Defence. Demonstrated and confirmed! I ask that it be entered in the encyclopedia…"

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