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| Jan-17-11 | | puzzlepatzer: i really dont see this as a brilliancy on giri's part. magnus just played poorly this game. he can be unpredictable like that. |
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| Jan-17-11 | | rapidcitychess: Will <Everyone> be surprised at Carlsen's behavior after the game? :) |
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| Jan-17-11 | | lorker: <rapidcitychess> What exactly was Carlsen's behavior after the game? |
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| Jan-17-11 | | cionics: What the hell happened here? |
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| Jan-17-11 | | weisyschwarz: I dunno what happened, but if anyone can brush this setback away and go on to win this tournament, it is Carlsen. |
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| Jan-17-11 | | Ropd: Giri is nt better dan Carlsen??bt he deserves a big Congrats!! |
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| Jan-17-11 | | fgh: <picard: Will this be Giri's Immortal or does he have even better games to come? Is it too early to proclaim this as the game of the century?> No, yes and it won't be proclaimed as such. A brilliancy requires exemplary play on both sides. Taking that into account, this game is a far better candidate for such title: McShane vs Carlsen, 2010 |
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| Jan-17-11 | | mastermind7994: This game has grown in popularity in very little time. I hope that Carlsen can come with a comeback in the following rounds. Here is an article published in the same day: http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne... |
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| Jan-17-11 | | BobCrisp: <What exactly was Carlsen's behavior after the game?> I understand he let rip with a terrific fart, telling <Giri> to 'have that one on me.' |
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| Jan-17-11 | | Marmot PFL: Byrne played nowhere near as badly as Carlsen did here. |
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| Jan-17-11 | | anandrulez: I tend to agree this game was not quite a Carlsen like game , Qd2 ? I mean its absolutely counter inuitive . |
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| Jan-17-11 | | MrQuinn: Just so, BobCrisp. Word is that Carlsen is prodigiously gassy. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | chancho: A press conference from last year's tournament with Giri and Carlsen getting interviewed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZC-... |
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| Jan-17-11 | | arnaud1959: Where does the theory stop? After 12.-Nb4 every move seems to be forced. |
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Jan-17-11
 | | Domdaniel: This happy-go-lucky nonsense looks like one of my games. A boring Neo-Grunfeld turns into tactical mayhem and somebody gets mated or loses all their pieces ... happens all the time. |
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| Jan-17-11 | | Bautismo: Why not exchange queens with 18. Qxd5? Doesnt he gain control over the center? |
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| Jan-17-11 | | Eyal: <Where does the theory stop? After 12.-Nb4 every move seems to be forced.> Not really - Carlsen made consecutive mistakes on moves 18-20 (18.Qxd5 shouldn't lose a pawn; 19.c4 Nxc4 20.Qb4 should give good compensation; and 20.Ng5 just loses a piece to 20...e3! though by that stage White's position is rotten anyway, even after the relatively best 20.Nd4 Qxd5). The novelty was the rather bizarre 11.Qd2 - which seems to be almost the only move that hasn't been tried yet... (previous games have seen 11.Qe2, 11.Qc2, 11.Ng5, 11.Nd2, 11.Nb5, 11.Na4, 11.h3, 11.d5, 11.b3, 11.a4 & 11.a3). |
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| Jan-17-11 | | ROADDOG: MagnusCarlsen
.Always nice to confirm that I'm still capable of blundering a piece in one move! From Magnus' twitter page.
http://twitter.com/magnuscarlsen |
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Jan-17-11
| | Domdaniel: 11.Qd2 is a horrible move. I can say this with some confidence because I had the same position in a tournament game last Saturday. I considered Qd2 (vague memories of Korchnoi games) and rejected it; considered 11.d5 (which is good, and has been played several times by Baburin -- but which feels wrong somehow, advancing the d-pawn when you've just played e3 to support it). I came up with the dubious 11.a3 and eventually won. The trouble with Carlsen's move is that he quickly understood he was in difficulty, but got himself into worse situations trying to escape. That can happen very easily in this line. |
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| Jan-17-11 | | Eyal: Yeah - as someone said on the Carlsen page, 11.Qd2 looks like the result of a mouse slip on an internet game... especially strange when it comes from someone who usually shows such a superb sense for piece coordination and harmony. |
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| Jan-17-11 | | crazybird: <"I don’t think Carlsen will lose again like this in the next ten years. He just blundered away a piece.”> - Giri |
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Jan-17-11
 | | Stonehenge: I have the feeling Carlsen can't improve his positional game any further but he's trying to nonetheless. It looks to me he's trying to go beyond the limits of the possible. I think he should just go back to his normal game. And stop with this fashion model nonsense. |
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| Jan-17-11 | | Marmot PFL: <quinn> too many raisins |
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Jan-17-11
| | Domdaniel: <Eyal> Yes. A mouse- or finger- slip makes sense ... or it could have been preparation gone wrong, where he decided to try an innovation without properly working through the consequences. The Korchnoi games with Qd2 were against a Queen's Indian set-up, not a Grunfeld -- it makes little sense to block the Bc1 with the Queen like that unless there's some powerful plan in mind, as in Korchnoi's miniature against Karpov in 1974. It's also unthinkable that Carlsen would be unfamiliar with the position. I mean, *I'm* familiar with that position, and there's 1000 ELO points between us. I'd actually 'prepared' d5 a few months ago, but just didn't like the look of it over the board - hence 12.a3. Whatever Carlsen's reason, he came up with a very dubious TN. |
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Jan-17-11
| | Domdaniel: I meant 11.a3. Actually, it's not so bad -- it has the advantage of keeping black knights away from b4. Unless they choose to sac themselves there, of course. |
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