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| Jun-12-12 | | BadKnight: Good morning everyone! for any resident rook endgame expert, how tricky is this position to defend? |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Ulhumbrus: <Strongest Force: Anyone remembers anymore relevant Star Wars stuff?> They may have posted it all in other messages by now, particularly in Luke's games |
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| Jun-12-12 | | whiteshark: Boring conversation anyway. Luke, we’re gonna have company! |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Gypsy: <how tricky is this position to defend?> Looks tricky enough.
Disclaimers: Just got here and not really a rook endgame expert; just assessing by the several rook-endgame rules of thumb |
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| Jun-12-12 | | OneArmedScissor: <Strongest Force> if you don't stop talking about star wars i will stab you in the heart with an iphone |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Strongest Force: Maybe Nak hopes Luke falls into a mate in one:) |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Ulhumbrus: Commandment to a top player, whether in persisting in trying to win or trying to defend: Thou shalt not get fed up |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Gypsy: Down to pure pawns, anyway. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | whiteshark: I suggest a new strategy, R2. Let the wookiee win. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | benjinathan: doesnt the white king simply shuffle between g and h? |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Kinghunt: Pretty stalemate to end the game. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Gypsy: Corresponding-squares work... |
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| Jun-12-12 | | whiteshark: Stalemate! |
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| Jun-12-12 | | BadKnight: and now its over! |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Marmot PFL: I thought 80 moves, missed it by 1. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | BadKnight: Its okay to play on if one is trying for something, like in this game. Caruana game was like shuffling pieces, quite different from this one. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Ulhumbrus: 24 Rd1 allows Black to spoil White's pawn structure. Instead of this 24 Bxb6 exchanges the black squared bishops before Black can play ...Bxb6 |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Strongest Force: OAS, whatis wronng with Star Wars? I think Lukas did a good thing. Btw, you could never work for the Mafia trying to use ipone as a stab device:) |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Pedro Fernandez: I'm wondering if these kind of situation gives some worth to GM Nakamura, specially in a prestigious tournament like Tal Memorial. Just a question of honor. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | whiteshark: (๏̯͡๏) |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Ulhumbrus: After 24 Bxd8 Qxd8 25 b4 White seems to have a permanent advantage. Instead of this 24 Rfd1? makes a target of White's a pawn after the exchange ..Bxb6 draws it on to the square b6. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Albertan: In case anyone is interested,this game followed 19 moves of known opening theory for each player before Nakumura played the theoretical novelty of 19...Qc8. I wonder if the two players knew that they were following moves which had been played before in Chess history? Chessbase 11 was able to access the Chessbase online database and provide me with the fact that prior to Nakamura's 19th move of 19...Qc8 the only move which had been played in the position was 19...g6 in the game Wahlbohm (2355) and Frieberg (2200) from the Motala 1979 tournament. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Eyal: <this game followed 19 moves of known opening theory for each player before Nakumura played the theoretical novelty of 19...Qc8. I wonder if the two players knew that they were following moves which had been played before in Chess history?> No. McShane spent about an <hour> over 13.e5, so he was clearly learning the position at the board and not going by previous knowledge, and Nakamura would have never entered by design such an inferior position as he got by move 19. From his comments at the press conference it's quite clear that he was also rather quickly out of his theoretical depth here. |
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| Jun-12-12 | | Albertan: <Eyal:No. McShane spent about an hour> <over 13.e5, so he was clearly learning> the position at the board and not going by previous knowledge, and Nakamura would have never entered by design such an inferior position as he got by move 19. From his comments at the press conference it's quite clear that he was also rather quickly out of his <theoretical depth here.> Eval thank you for sharing the above information with us. |
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| Jun-13-12 | | chess defense: I think 19..Qc8 was a novelty....i wonder whether the last 29 moves was worth playing or not...it actually lessens the quality of the game... |
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