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Nigel Short vs Robert Gardner
Edmonton International (2012), Edmonton - Canada, rd 2, Jun-28
Uncommon King's Pawn Opening (B00)  ·  1-0

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Jun-28-12  Shams: Poor Gardner. Short just devoured all of his vegetables like an insane Peter Rabbit.
Jun-28-12  ooda: They make it look easy against 2200 players these top GM's. That game just flowed naturally and smoothly into a crushing position. Black looks doomed from the moment Short launches his h pawn.
Jun-28-12  King Death: < ooda: They make it look easy against 2200 players these top GM's...>

How strong are you? Have you ever played a top GM? It must feel good to sit on the sideline and be this dismissive of a player that's not as weak as you think, see the only kibitz on his page (Robert Gardner).

Jun-28-12  ooda: I'm below 2000 and have beaten or drawn with 2100+ players only rarely. But that's part of what amazes me so much about the seeming ease with which Short gained a dominating position.

If I seemed dismissive it was not my intention.

Jun-28-12  e4e5formerly: << ooda: I'm below 2000 and have beaten or drawn with 2100+ players only rarely. But that's part of what amazes me so much about the seeming ease with which Short gained a dominating position. If I seemed dismissive it was not my intention.>>

There's nothing dismissive about your post ooda.

Jun-28-12  King Death: < ooda: I'm below 2000 and have beaten or drawn with 2100+ players only rarely.>>

Keep playing and improving and you'll do it all right.

<...If I seemed dismissive it was not my intention.>

No problem.

Jun-29-12
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  Albertan: <Jun-28-12 King Death: ooda: They> <make> it look easy against 2200 > >players these top GM's...>

<How strong are you? Have you ever> <played a top GM? It must feel good to> <sit on the sideline and be this> <dismissive of a player that's not as> <weak as you think, see the only kibitz> on his page (Robert Gardner).

King Death well-stated. I know Rob Gardner personally, he is a very strong player, who once defeated several of us simulataneously while he was playing blindfold against us!! Rob Gardner has been one of Alberta's and one of Canada's strongest players for at least 30 years! His rating used to b over 2300 and at one point I believe he was close to 2400. Rob is one of the nicest persons I have ever met in my life,which goes to show you that you do not have to be an arrogant jerk to be a top-rated chess player.

Jun-30-12
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  HAPERSAUD: as someone who has a hard time playing rob I find it disconcerting to watch short beat him, playing opponents like Edward porper is much more calming than playing rob, he gives no quarters.
Jul-02-12
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  watwinc: The point of 21 f5 was obviously to create an escape square for the Black king. Couldn't black do the same thing with 21 ...f6, when 22 Nxf6ch Bxf6 23 Qxh6 Bg7 24 Qh7ch Kf7 25 Rh6 and now Black has 25 ... Rg5
Jul-02-12  Shams: <watwinc> 25.f5 in your line.
Jul-02-12  King Death: < watwinc: The point of 21 f5 was obviously to create an escape square for the Black king. Couldn't black do the same thing with 21 ...f6, when 22 Nxf6ch Bxf6 23 Qxh6 Bg7 24 Qh7ch Kf7 25 Rh6 and now Black has 25 ... Rg5>

In your line I think there's a problem, White doesn't have to play 25.Rh6. He can try 25.f5 instead (25...gf 26.Qh5+ will mate) when Black's king doesn't last too long.

Jul-02-12
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  watwinc: <King Death> Black's busted by those raking bishops anyway - I like 25 f5 Rh8 26 Qxg6 ch Kg8 27 f6 Rg5 28 f7 mate
Jul-02-12  Cibator: The whole thing was very reminiscent of a Yugoslav Attack in the Sicilian Dragon. Short just followed the classic Fischer recipe by prying open the h-file. He didn't need to "sac ... sac ... " to achieve the mate, though.
Jul-02-12  kingfu: I got a draw with Nicolas Rossolimo at his studio in The Village. He was also playing 5 other opponents. I was lucky.

I got a thorough drubbing by Larry Christiansen. He was playing a simul with about 25 opponents.

Both were French Defenses. The Rossolimo game was the Tarrasch Variation. I ended being the exchange up and overlooked a perpetual check.

In the late 70s, before Al was born, I tried The Morozevich French Variation. You need some serious experience / talent to play the Moro against someone rated 500 points higher than you! At least I made it to move 20 before resigning.

Jul-04-12  Garech: A merciless hack attack. Why's it listed as an "uncommon opening"? Isn't it a Pseudo-Pirc by transposition?

-Garech

Jul-04-12
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  Dionysius1: I think, without looking for evidence, that Short used this Grand- Prix-attack-against-the-Sicilian style strategy often in league games in the 1980s. He said at the time that the formation kind of plays itself.
Jul-04-12  mrbasso: Why does it matter how strong Gardner is?
This is a weak game. Period.

The opening is a disaster. 4...e6 and 5...c5. I don't like it at all... It's better to play 4...c5 and 5...Nc6.
Certainly a difficult line to play for black, but hardly lost.

Aug-25-12
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  Fusilli: <mrbasso> I agree. Black's set up is weak. I am also sure Mr Gardner knows better. Perhaps an attempt to get off the books, a strategy that many players adopt when playing someone stronger. Somehow I find that to be a risky bet. Improvising on a typical line (that became typical for a reason) has to be safer than improvising on a positionally dubious set up. Unless the typical line is a tactical minefield, that is... (where your opponent knows every detail and you are exposed to the elements)

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